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Ryanair Interview and Sim Assessment (merged)

Old 7th Mar 2006, 18:11
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Im currently there hopefully not for much longer though! . Basically you dont get any real say in where they stick you basically place you where they need people although if you want STN you will more than likely get it. Honestly guys think very carefully before joining and if youre experienced definately dont come! But if youre searching for that first job you will have to be prepared to have a long wait until you start flying! all unpaid of course after paying out 20k plus on youre rating!!! I got my mate a job in May 05 and he has only just started his line training a couple of weeks ago!! "Ryanair - A Guide for Prospective Pilot Employees" http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthread.php?t=214074 mandatory reading for anyone thinking of joining! And then there's the new PAYCUT DEAL!!! okok ill shutup now anyway guys good luck!
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Old 25th Mar 2006, 22:09
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Ryanair (merged)

Hi folks,

I've just passed the sim ride with Ryanair and now in the holding pool. Are there any others out there who are getting it fully paid for by Ryanair or am I the first? does anybody how long the wait in the pool is ??
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Old 25th Mar 2006, 22:21
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I spoke to a friend at ryanair that they might be considering paying for training now - but i did nt know they actually have ! nice one !!! when did you do your sim ?

I was going to apply to them if this is the case ? but do you still have to pay the 50 quid with the online application ??


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Old 25th Mar 2006, 22:29
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I hate to answer your question with a question but when you passed was it an assesment for your first airline job? I know someone with a sim ride soon who expects to cough up for the rating if he passes. Best of Luck. Sorry I can't answer your question.
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Old 26th Mar 2006, 11:19
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Yeah, are you talking about frozen ATPL, 250hrs, fresh wannabe or already 737 or other type rated and upgrading to the NG?

All the best.
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Old 26th Mar 2006, 12:16
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f/atpl

260 hrs total

type rating paid for by Ryanair.... just got it confirmed in writing. Bonded to the comapany for a few years too.

Totally amazed and quite chuffed too.

perhaps I'm the first!???

anybody else had the same ???

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Old 26th Mar 2006, 12:28
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So, you're telling that the guy who started training a week or a month ago is paying and you're not...auch, man that must hurt!!

Anyway, good luck! - you applied through Ryanair or SAS/CAE? Have applied at Ryan some time ago, still no news.

You think this means they're having trouble finding qualified people?? Must be a good reason why MOL is doing this??
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Old 26th Mar 2006, 12:48
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Its the only reason why MOL is doing this Zooloflyer ! MOl is finding it hard to recruit guys who are willing to pay for a type rating and we all know there is a shortage of type rated/ Experienced pilots out there at the moment. Jumbo-clingfilm says he has been bonded to the company for a few years, well maybe this could be the real reason why Ryanair are paying for a type rating for him.

It is known that many people working in other areas of the company have been offered the opportunity of becoming a Pilot. Initially they pay for their Training for there F-ATPL and Ryanair will pay for there type rating and recruit them as pilots.

Theres an idea! If you already have a fATPL and you cannot afford to pay for a Type Rating why not get a job as a Baggage Handler or something and maybe after a year or two they offer you a job as a pilot and pay for your Type Rating. Still I would not do this because I think the way Ryanair treat their staff is a disgrace.
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Old 26th Mar 2006, 13:01
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Thanks cheekyC!

I agree with you but it's a fact that they will have to change policy if they want their HR costs to be stable and you don't achieve this by chasing away people all the time...costs loads of time, money and resources!

And when it's about money, MOL wakes up I guess - there's hope...

Last week I visited the EasyJet website, amazing how different the HR & general approach is on their website - no aggressive use of money numbers etc. More working towards the long term there I guess...
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Old 26th Mar 2006, 13:24
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I agree totally with you Zooloflyer, they will definately change their policy in relation to Type Ratings. MOL is fiddling around at the moment introducing a new 5/4 roster trying to make the airline an attractive place for pilots to come to but I dont think what he is doing will work. Ryanair need something like a 1000 pilots within the next 10 years to meet their expansion plans. It is only a matter of time before they change their policy on Type Ratings for pilots. They claim their pilots are the best paid short haul pilots in Europe. This claim is a load of rubbish.
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Old 26th Mar 2006, 15:32
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Howcome you even got a job offer with no hours on type? I thought Ryanair only wanted pilots with at least 100hrs on the 737?? Easyjet also make it clear that unless you have time flying a 737 they too dont want to know.
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Old 26th Mar 2006, 21:34
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Originally Posted by machlimter99
Howcome you even got a job offer with no hours on type? I thought Ryanair only wanted pilots with at least 100hrs on the 737?? Easyjet also make it clear that unless you have time flying a 737 they too dont want to know.
There are only two ways into EZY for someone without an ATPL (that's unfrozen ATPL): CTC ATP scheme (or whatever it's called this week); and TRSS.

For the TRSS (Type Rating Sponsorship Scheme) you need at least 500 hours medium commercial transport.

I'm not aware there are any ways to bend the rules... if there are, I'd be very interested to hear how it might be done!!!
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Old 27th Mar 2006, 08:56
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you'll still pay

here is what you can expect if you join ryanair without a 737 type rating.If this has changed recently in favour of flight crew i for one will glad to here it.

Captain's with jet time but no 737 rating.

Rating paid for. Wages paid from commencement of training. however you will get a reduced salary that equites to the price of the rating (E 25000)for 5 years and bonded for five years. You will still have to put up for your own accomadation during the type rating which will take 5 weeks. expect something in the region of 3 months from commencement of training to line check.

fo's with jet time but no type rating.

Wages paid from day one, however the amount depends on total jet hours, less than 500 and you be on around 20,000 a year less. you'll pay for type rating and you'll be on half sector pay for 6 month's. no bond however they may require you to pay 6000 for the base check if you leave within two years. expect to wait up to six months depending on the time of the year that you join before you start line training, oh and no sector pay during line training with safety pilot onboard.

fo's with no jet type rating (SO)

Wages from completionof line check(appox. 12000, depending on which way the wind is blowing), half sector pay for 6 months, none during type rating. you'll pay for type rating and again depending on the time of the year wait up to 6 months for line training. no bond, but again 6 grand if you leave inside two years.

having said all that i to have heard stories of fo's telling ryanair that they are unable to raise the funds and have been given the bond option. also i have not seen the 6 g's in writing anywhere so i am unsure how they would enforce this.

typically if they want to hire you they seem to change requirements to suit individual's, i would not be suprised if jumbo got what he said, however he will still be paying somewhere.
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Old 27th Mar 2006, 10:31
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What are the chances of people getting straight in with Ryanair if they have already completed a self sponsored type rating with someone like GECAT or alike.

Seems to be the better option in my eyes, you finance it yourself (same as at Ryanair) then you can accelerate the time onto aircraft and hence get your pay sooner. And ultimately there would be no bond! Everyones a winner!!

What do you ppruners think??
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Old 27th Mar 2006, 10:46
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[QUOTE=AndyDRHuddleston]What are the chances of people getting straight in with Ryanair if they have already completed a self sponsored type rating with someone like GECAT or alike.


andy,, nice idea, however if ryanair where to accept this approach which i doubt they will still require you to spend some time in there sim's to get up to speed on there SOP's and i would say that you will still have to do a base check with them also. Expect a Bond.
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Old 27th Mar 2006, 10:46
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No, that's not what they want. They might take you if you were rated, line trained and ready to go. Otherwise, you need to go through the cadet recruitment process and do the TR through Ryanair.

I'd love to apply for Ryanair, myself, but can't afford the TR. No matter how much pay and working conditions are slagged off, they are doubtless far better than what I was getting as an instructor. It would be quite ironic if Ryanair dropped the SSTR when lower down the food chain outfits like Loganair, Highlandair and various charter outfits asking you to pay for training. After all, it was probably Ryanair, who were most responsible for starting this SSTR nightmare!
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Old 28th Mar 2006, 19:18
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Originally Posted by Fair_Weather_Flyer
It would be quite ironic if Ryanair dropped the SSTR when lower down the food chain outfits like Loganair, Highlandair and various charter outfits asking you to pay for training. After all, it was probably Ryanair, who were most responsible for starting this SSTR nightmare!
Errr ... can I just say that Highland do NOT make their employees pay for training, or type rating, or anything else. (And I'm quite sure that Logan don't either).
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Old 28th Mar 2006, 20:11
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ah logan charge 12000 to do type rating on Saab 340.
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Old 29th Mar 2006, 07:34
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The comments that I made about both companies are true and have been verified. Today, a jet operator sent me an application form. One of the questions asked if I was willing to self-fund a TR. In the past they used to use a bonding arrangement. Last week someone was telling me that I had the hours to fly their biz jet and the dreaded SSTR question was asked. Everyone is at it; Air Contractors, Aurigny, Emerald, Jet2, Globespan, BMI, Easyjet and the list goes on.

I'd say that there are plenty of people out there willing and able to sponsor ratings so I find it hard to believe that Ryanair are going to take the high road.
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Old 29th Mar 2006, 08:16
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I sent a PM to the guy posting, never got a reply - I think it's a MOL scam to fill up his database some more...

Let's unite through the PPRuNe CPL HOLDING POOL and try to stop this madness!!!
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