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I did the Cabair Mod course a few years ago. There are only 3 that I know of out of the 17 ish people on the course who aren't working. Airlines such as Ryanair, FlyBe, Astreus, Eastern all took on chaps from my course. There were a number went instructing first, couple are still instructing and a couple are now flying corporate stuff.
As for TS getting 'booted out' of the airline trade, I think you will find he lost his medical. As any professional pilot knows, we are only as good as our last medical. Imagine how you'd feel if having spent all that money on your training to do the job that you really wanted to do, a doctor suddenly takes the whole thing away from you. Shame.
As for TS getting 'booted out' of the airline trade, I think you will find he lost his medical. As any professional pilot knows, we are only as good as our last medical. Imagine how you'd feel if having spent all that money on your training to do the job that you really wanted to do, a doctor suddenly takes the whole thing away from you. Shame.
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TS did lose his job. but the rumour I heard was that it was his own fault or stupidity that lost him his job. The medical story came about to cover up the truth!
I would not like to say how it happened to protect the man, after all its in his past and i'm sure that he learnt from it!
I would not like to say how it happened to protect the man, after all its in his past and i'm sure that he learnt from it!
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I left Cabair in 2001 following an intergrated course, I was put forward for interviews with British European & Air 2000, at that time Cabair were very helpful with putting people forward, I hope it still does the same these days!
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Originally Posted by BoxcarWilhomena
Would this 'Tim' have the initials 'T.S.' ?
I hadn't heard that he had been "booted out", as you put it !
Does anyone know if this is true, and why ?
And if he isn't there now, where has he gone ?
Boxcar.
I hadn't heard that he had been "booted out", as you put it !
Does anyone know if this is true, and why ?
And if he isn't there now, where has he gone ?
Boxcar.
As for the modular/integrated route... there was a chat by a BACX rep a few months back (quite a few now), and he honestly favoured Integrated (no real reason I cal recall). But, Cabair certainly recommends Integrated students more due to the records they keep on such students on their progress and persona. With the modular route, if you've trained elsewhere, they're not so clear on your progress and the records are not as thorough. That's how they seem to see it, although I know many modular peeps who are top-notch. One thing I don't understand is, if a student has done *all* their modular training at Cabair, why they can't then be recommended like an Integrated student?
One of the mysteries of aviation training that will never be solved. An integrated student is equally as employable as a modular student, but it *seems* to be the case that a modular student has more work to do securing that vital airline job. That's not to say that it's all held out on a plate for an Integrated, as it isn't!
Oh and they really need to fix the cabin heaters on the twins... it's absolutely rotten this time of year. *cold toes*
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It's all well and good slagging off TS, but the fact of the matter is you have to keep in his good books if you want to be put forward for a job by him afterwards! I think he's ok as a person - but he's the spin man for cabair, will tempt you in then when he has your money is not so fussed any more. Same will go for OATS people I'm sure.
When you finish, I think you have to try and create your own luck to a certain extent. Cabair may find you a job but you cannot rely on them. I did the CTC thing when I finished turning orange, and now I'm about to go red white and blue. TS came to me with a job offer when I was waiting for CTC (took 8 months in the hold pool, 1 year on from 911).
Nevertheless, have a couple of friends from the CAP509 who still haven't found a job, but on the contrary know a few people flying jets that were modular. And as for the Oxford argument, have a few friends from there that were tossed out by the ear when they finished there and forgotton about. So no real difference in FTO's!
Think getting the job depends on luck and judgement, with obviously good grades as pre-requisite. But don't go falling out a man who could find you a job when you finish (and by the way he did lose his medical!).
When you finish, I think you have to try and create your own luck to a certain extent. Cabair may find you a job but you cannot rely on them. I did the CTC thing when I finished turning orange, and now I'm about to go red white and blue. TS came to me with a job offer when I was waiting for CTC (took 8 months in the hold pool, 1 year on from 911).
Nevertheless, have a couple of friends from the CAP509 who still haven't found a job, but on the contrary know a few people flying jets that were modular. And as for the Oxford argument, have a few friends from there that were tossed out by the ear when they finished there and forgotton about. So no real difference in FTO's!
Think getting the job depends on luck and judgement, with obviously good grades as pre-requisite. But don't go falling out a man who could find you a job when you finish (and by the way he did lose his medical!).
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Originally Posted by skysoarer
Hogwash... Tim is at Cabair still, and he's a bl00dy nice bloke! I've known him for a good 8 years now. I'm actually there now doing an integrated course, and due to have the wretched I/R in less than two months after nailing all the ground exams first round.
As for the modular/integrated route... there was a chat by a BACX rep a few months back (quite a few now), and he honestly favoured Integrated (no real reason I cal recall). But, Cabair certainly recommends Integrated students more due to the records they keep on such students on their progress and persona. With the modular route, if you've trained elsewhere, they're not so clear on your progress and the records are not as thorough. That's how they seem to see it, although I know many modular peeps who are top-notch. One thing I don't understand is, if a student has done *all* their modular training at Cabair, why they can't then be recommended like an Integrated student?
One of the mysteries of aviation training that will never be solved. An integrated student is equally as employable as a modular student, but it *seems* to be the case that a modular student has more work to do securing that vital airline job. That's not to say that it's all held out on a plate for an Integrated, as it isn't!
Oh and they really need to fix the cabin heaters on the twins... it's absolutely rotten this time of year. *cold toes*
Sky
As for the modular/integrated route... there was a chat by a BACX rep a few months back (quite a few now), and he honestly favoured Integrated (no real reason I cal recall). But, Cabair certainly recommends Integrated students more due to the records they keep on such students on their progress and persona. With the modular route, if you've trained elsewhere, they're not so clear on your progress and the records are not as thorough. That's how they seem to see it, although I know many modular peeps who are top-notch. One thing I don't understand is, if a student has done *all* their modular training at Cabair, why they can't then be recommended like an Integrated student?
One of the mysteries of aviation training that will never be solved. An integrated student is equally as employable as a modular student, but it *seems* to be the case that a modular student has more work to do securing that vital airline job. That's not to say that it's all held out on a plate for an Integrated, as it isn't!
Oh and they really need to fix the cabin heaters on the twins... it's absolutely rotten this time of year. *cold toes*
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Is G BGON still at Cabair?
It got me through my IR 5 years ago,
can't remember if the heater worked or not, enough heat was being generated from me as I flew round the hold at Cambridge!
It got me through my IR 5 years ago,
can't remember if the heater worked or not, enough heat was being generated from me as I flew round the hold at Cambridge!
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Originally Posted by Ennie
Is G BGON still at Cabair?
It got me through my IR 5 years ago,
can't remember if the heater worked or not, enough heat was being generated from me as I flew round the hold at Cambridge!
It got me through my IR 5 years ago,
can't remember if the heater worked or not, enough heat was being generated from me as I flew round the hold at Cambridge!
Edit: An I/R that I can now say was an outright Pass, for the lucky soul! Nice day for it actually...
Last edited by skysoarer; 13th Feb 2006 at 17:53.
" Even BA will accept modular graduates on an equal basis, as far as I am aware (although like FlyBe used to they ask for integrated - various reasons have been put forward, from being years out of date to thinning out CVs).
BA will ONLY take integrated graduates on their SSP scheme. If you are Modular then look elsewhere. Under no circumstances will BA Mainline take modular students on their SSP programme. BACX will however.
The only way to get in to BA Mainline from a modular background is to fly for someone else and then apply through their direct entry process.
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Hogwash... Tim is at Cabair still, and he's a bl00dy nice bloke!
so don't give me "h's a nice bloke..."
He's a smug w**nker and i feel sorry for anyone who has to render his services to get started in this industry.
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Originally Posted by PRNAV1
Yeah right! Tim is the biggest money grabbing etc etc etc ...
He certainly didn't give up on a friend of mine who graduated at Cabair, and took just shy of two years to get a job (with Brymon in the end, now BACX).
We're all entitled to our own opinions eh?
