Fo's At Loganair
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Fo's At Loganair
Have seen ads in flight international for direct entry captains for logi and with people moving from regionals, I believe about 20 fo's leaving flybe this atumn for example, just wondering if anyone knows A) if many fo's are leaving logi this autumn and B) they are goining to be recruiting any new fo's this autumn/winter?
would be very grateful for any info
cheers
would be very grateful for any info
cheers
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I met a young man this weekend at the EOC who starts at Loganair on 3rd Nov on recommendation from his school (Cabair) so it is happening. Might not be all but it is.
I know an F/O there and has given same indication, like many I have applied several times on the web and not got any response.
I met a young man this weekend at the EOC who starts at Loganair on 3rd Nov on recommendation from his school (Cabair) so it is happening. Might not be all but it is.
I know an F/O there and has given same indication, like many I have applied several times on the web and not got any response.
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They are hiring a lot of people. What I take issue with is rbr saying they only take people from recommendation. They take anyone they like. If they like your form you get a call - if not then you don't.
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Saying they'ONLY' take people on school recomendation is not true. I also know they just took on a chap who was not recommended.
I believe he was however 'in the right place at exactly the right time'.
I believe he was however 'in the right place at exactly the right time'.
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Silverknapper is spot on, if they like you then great, you're laughing. It's not only school recommended people they take. The story about them only ever taking people with Scottish addresses is also nonsense
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Logan is after pilots that can relocate and commit to at least a few years with them i.e. no strings and prob no attachments. Show that and you are in the postion to impress. A mate just got a job with them. Good lad!
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At your Loganair interview, the most important question will be:
Have you got your £12000 available for the type rating on our Saab?
Beware, I'm told 2 guys have recently been chopped during line training after paying their £12k.
Save your money towards a 737 rating, then you can join up with the other Logan boys jumping ship who realise that's what they should have done in the first place.
Have you got your £12000 available for the type rating on our Saab?
Beware, I'm told 2 guys have recently been chopped during line training after paying their £12k.
Save your money towards a 737 rating, then you can join up with the other Logan boys jumping ship who realise that's what they should have done in the first place.
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mmm you post seems to be a bit bitter.could you be 1 of the guys recently chopped..?
the aviation community within scotland is quite a small 1 so most of us know why those "persons" were chopped...the company doesnt like chopping any 1.The bond(loan) is paid back by logi so the guys concerned wouldnt have been out of pocket..
logi like evry other company has people moving on ,be greatful chaps it means that for those of you lucky enough to be taken on its prob. going to be the most fun airline flying you'l ever do!
mmm you post seems to be a bit bitter.could you be 1 of the guys recently chopped..?
the aviation community within scotland is quite a small 1 so most of us know why those "persons" were chopped...the company doesnt like chopping any 1.The bond(loan) is paid back by logi so the guys concerned wouldnt have been out of pocket..
logi like evry other company has people moving on ,be greatful chaps it means that for those of you lucky enough to be taken on its prob. going to be the most fun airline flying you'l ever do!
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Guys and Gals,
Just to offer my two penneth.
The £12K upfront is a little rude I agree. This doesn't even cover the course cost though. I think I read that total cost to the company is about £18K. It is a big commitment, and no, it never used to be like that in the old days.
However, it is NOT the old days anymore, the whole business is changing. If you don't want to pay, then don't apply for the job. It's that simple. No point moaning about upfront bonds. They are here to stay I'm afraid.
What about the 'risk' factor? I have met a few guys that were chopped and 99.99% of those that weren't during line training with LC. If you go into it with the same amount of commitment and learning effort/respect that you gave your GFT or IR, then invariably, you will succeed. In my opinion, there does seem to be a belief in 'new-starts' that once the type rating is out of the way, they can relax. Those that do, struggle and in the worst case, get chopped. Don't relax, don't stop working damn hard to get it right until the day you have passed that line check.
It could be worse, you could be paying for the line training aswell! And at least they pay you from the day you start with the company.
I was there for 5 years, flew Otter, Islander and SAAB. Enjoyed every second of it. Everything I learnt there is now paying huge dividends on the jet I now fly.
Cheers
ACA
Just to offer my two penneth.
The £12K upfront is a little rude I agree. This doesn't even cover the course cost though. I think I read that total cost to the company is about £18K. It is a big commitment, and no, it never used to be like that in the old days.
However, it is NOT the old days anymore, the whole business is changing. If you don't want to pay, then don't apply for the job. It's that simple. No point moaning about upfront bonds. They are here to stay I'm afraid.
What about the 'risk' factor? I have met a few guys that were chopped and 99.99% of those that weren't during line training with LC. If you go into it with the same amount of commitment and learning effort/respect that you gave your GFT or IR, then invariably, you will succeed. In my opinion, there does seem to be a belief in 'new-starts' that once the type rating is out of the way, they can relax. Those that do, struggle and in the worst case, get chopped. Don't relax, don't stop working damn hard to get it right until the day you have passed that line check.
It could be worse, you could be paying for the line training aswell! And at least they pay you from the day you start with the company.
I was there for 5 years, flew Otter, Islander and SAAB. Enjoyed every second of it. Everything I learnt there is now paying huge dividends on the jet I now fly.
Cheers
ACA
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Let me state the obvious.
If you stuggle to obtain your CPL/IR by requiring additional training/testing then you may be classified as a "training risk".
Sometimes airlines assessment teams take a risk themselves, and select a FO who may be considered to be a marginal training risk. Sometimes it works out - sometimes it does not.
If you do not fall into this category, then provided you continue to put in 100% effort to your type and line training you will succeed.
Loganair is an excellent training platform for those early years to develop your skills. With an ATPL issued, you are ideally placed for that first jet job having had an enjoyable time on the Saab.
NDB into Islay on a dark windy wet night is a good introduction for those Greek Islands at night !!
I think ACA [the previous posting] will bear this out in his 757.
If you stuggle to obtain your CPL/IR by requiring additional training/testing then you may be classified as a "training risk".
Sometimes airlines assessment teams take a risk themselves, and select a FO who may be considered to be a marginal training risk. Sometimes it works out - sometimes it does not.
If you do not fall into this category, then provided you continue to put in 100% effort to your type and line training you will succeed.
Loganair is an excellent training platform for those early years to develop your skills. With an ATPL issued, you are ideally placed for that first jet job having had an enjoyable time on the Saab.
NDB into Islay on a dark windy wet night is a good introduction for those Greek Islands at night !!
I think ACA [the previous posting] will bear this out in his 757.
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Absolutely ecj! Those dark winter NDB approaches into Islay are some of the most 'exciting' I've done in the SAAB. Certainly makes you concentrate and fly bloody good non-precision approaches that's for sure!
Still, nothing will ever beat the night landings on the beach at Barra in the Islander. Although a circling approach to Corfu in crap weather can certainly get the pulse racing a little!
My new employer stated at the time of my sim check that he liked SAAB pilots. The SAAB is first generation EFIS and with a proper coupled FMS. It's a great grounding for jet flying and certainly saved me a lot of pain and anguish during my training.
Infact, apart from the size and EICAS screens, you'd be surprised at the similarity between the 757 and SAAB 340 flight decks. They are roughly the same age of airliner. The Primary flying displays are very similar and the FMS works basically in the same way, albiet with a few 'extras' thrown in on the 757. Worth having a look on airliners.net or something similar at the flight deck of both. I think the SAAB will surprise you if you haven't seen inside one before.
Cheers ACA
Still, nothing will ever beat the night landings on the beach at Barra in the Islander. Although a circling approach to Corfu in crap weather can certainly get the pulse racing a little!
My new employer stated at the time of my sim check that he liked SAAB pilots. The SAAB is first generation EFIS and with a proper coupled FMS. It's a great grounding for jet flying and certainly saved me a lot of pain and anguish during my training.
Infact, apart from the size and EICAS screens, you'd be surprised at the similarity between the 757 and SAAB 340 flight decks. They are roughly the same age of airliner. The Primary flying displays are very similar and the FMS works basically in the same way, albiet with a few 'extras' thrown in on the 757. Worth having a look on airliners.net or something similar at the flight deck of both. I think the SAAB will surprise you if you haven't seen inside one before.
Cheers ACA