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Old 1st Aug 2006, 15:59
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To anyone who is a little apprehensive about applying because they don't think their CV is strong enough, apply anyway, you've got nothing to lose and everything to gain. It's perfectly natural to feel a little overwhelmed by other people's apparant experience, but don't let it dishearten and discourage you.
If you're successful with your application, great, if you're unsuccessful, it will still be a good experience which you can learn from (eg practice at filling in application forms, psychometric testing, interview experience).
To use a quote I saw on TV,
"The only failure is the failure not to even try"
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Old 1st Aug 2006, 16:36
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There's not much info about this scheme on the FTE website. I'm assuming its the same as the main integrated one in terms of training, finance arrangements etc? I'm also assuming it's nothing like CTC where you are on a reduced "cadet" salary and the airline pay you back some of your money over 7 years? The loan is totally paid back by you and you can go onto a normal salary scale, which makes this a slightly better option if you can raise some of the money yourself and take a smaller loan?
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Old 1st Aug 2006, 16:53
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The only difference with this scheme to a standard, integrated one, is that the airline may possibly give you a job at the end of it, as long as there is a job available, and that you pass the course with decent grades. You are responsible for funding it. T'Fly will need to bond you for the type-rating after, which will reduce the salary, but that has nothing to do with the initial cost of the ATPL.

Hope that helps!
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Old 1st Aug 2006, 17:15
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Thanks, thats what I wanted to hear! I was planning to get my PPL and hours then go full time modular... but doing some sums it seems the FTE course could work out about the same... having accommodation and meals included is great! Not to mention a slightly better chance of a job on completion.
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Sorry,

Just need to know what are the minimun requirements
for this scheme? Specially the limit age?

Thanks,
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Old 1st Aug 2006, 20:43
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All the info on that should be here and here
bear in mind a previous post - apply anyway, you never know!

Also, regarding the age, you cannot be issued with a CPL until you are 18 anyway, so I think that 18 is the minimum age. We have an 18 year old on our course, and I don't know of any younger...

As to the maximum age (sorry, I keep forgetting things), the oldest T'fly guy on our course has recently turned 28, I'm not sure what the specific limit is. Again, apply anyway!
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Thanks for these precious links,

You right I should apply to this scheme and then
I will see if I am too old or not

I am very closed of my 29 (in September ) and
I wonder if I still could apply in 6 months when I
will be in my late 29.

For the moment I need to finish some jobs but in
the same time I don't want to miss this opportunity
offered by Thomsonfly.

Schuss,
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Old 3rd Aug 2006, 00:21
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he\she may have heard back already. Its likely that the next stage will be answering about 8 questions via email.
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Old 3rd Aug 2006, 19:06
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Requirements for TFLY Scheme

Hi all,

Can anyone give me a bit of advice. Have just been looking at the new TFLY Pilot training scheme with Jerez and have noticed they're only taking applicants who have three A levels two of which must be in Maths, Physics, Chemistry or Economics. I have just spent two years doing Business Studies and Media Studies (not very aviation related i know but was my choice - for my sins) When i looked at my courses most airlines, including TFLY I recall were specifying you needed to have 2 A levels preferably in Physics and/or maths but this wasn't madatory?

Is anyone else in this situation? Im not sure what to do wether just to look at other schemes or wether I should go back and do another two years at college?

Pleas if anyone can help - let me know.
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Old 3rd Aug 2006, 21:03
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Originally Posted by sicky
he\she may have heard back already. Its likely that the next stage will be answering about 8 questions via email.
Sounds about right, I got an email with 8 questions this morning. Have 3 days (1 gone already!) to send it back completed. Anyone know the next stages? Are they ever going to ask about specific qualifications and experience?!
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Old 3rd Aug 2006, 22:57
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I've not heard back from this one yet, and judging on their previous selections i don't really expect to. I've got everything crossed for the Gb Airways scheme, absolutely everything!!
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I was kind of assuming the initial "how many a levels, how many hours, whats your address" form was just a registration type thing and they'd contact everyone to answer the questions... maybe not
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Femalewannabe no that aint the case, i've just got email back saying i aint eligable, think its cos i dont have right qualifications - nothing in maths or phsyics just electrical stuff.

Nevermind didn't want to work for em anyway, ryanair is my true dream
i aint bitter
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Old 4th Aug 2006, 07:31
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When I was at school I took the advice.....Do Maths and Physics A' Levels! (Note: I am not saying these two are absolutely vital to becoming an airline pilot), and it has paid of in that I have been eligible for every sponsorship to date (well, except for the ones that have a rediculous cap of 50 hours).

However, for the first time we are seeing a clear bias for degree holders. The last batch were mostly graduates, I don't have a degree but I do have 5 years of work experience in a fast moving industry which in practise has just as much study and exams involved as a degree.

Still in two minds as to if I should respond. I have a bunch of written answers prepared for all the questions but do I really want this? After years of waiting I am now wising up. Don't get me wrong TFly is a fabulous company to work for. First year earnings after flight/duty pay and flexible working scheme additions your looking at £40k + (before tax) as a SO. The 60k loan all of a sudden becomes a good idea! But will I be able to afford the missed earnings for the year during training? Too many commitments now! Still deciding....

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Old 4th Aug 2006, 07:54
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Jet2us,
I think that the scheme is bias. I don't see what the difference is if you can clearly do the math and the physics contained within the ground school. I think that they should broaden their eligibility criteria, I myself have not done A levels in these subjects. I did A levels in Law, Business, Geog , Eng lit and General studies and have gone on to do a law degree. My point is I'd try for CTC Mcalpine, these guys have the right attitude and dont have such strict eligibility criteria. It seems odd to me that airlines such as BA didn't even require these disciplins when they were recruiting for their cadet scheme. I understand why they want these subjects, and that all they want is a sure bet.Therefore I would have a look around there are plenty of other options open to you. Personally I think if you are thinking of going back to college I would consider University instead, this would give you a sound back up in case things dont work out, you lose your medical etc. This is the route I have followed and am applying at the end of my degree, its up to you but thats my opinion. Any way best of luck.
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Old 4th Aug 2006, 08:02
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I understand why they want these subjects, and that all they want is a sure bet.
That and the last thing they want to do is spend 6 months to a year teaching cadets the foundations of the subjects involved. Sure most are capable of picking it all up quickly but not everyone.
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Old 4th Aug 2006, 08:14
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Suprepilot,
I agree there are plenty of people out there capable. Thats why I like the way in whcih CTC and Oxford insist on the aptitude tests before a training offer is given, and that the preconditions are not as stringent. I'd give anything to be able to apply to this scheme but the fact of the matter is A level physics and maths were not for me. I would rather apply to airlines with good passes in the subject I did rather than poor passes at specified subjects. True I would not want to pay £60,000 for someone i was not convinced would grasp all the relevant knowledge, but hey thats my opinion not saying its correct.

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Old 4th Aug 2006, 08:17
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Originally Posted by docash1983
Thats why I like the way in whcih CTC and Oxford insist on the aptitude tests before a training offer is given.
I think you'll find FTE is the same.
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Old 4th Aug 2006, 10:49
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docash1983,

Tfly aren't paying £60k per student, it's a mentored sponsorship so they pay nothing until TR if you are successful.
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Originally Posted by femaleWannabe
I was kind of assuming the initial "how many a levels, how many hours, whats your address" form was just a registration type thing and they'd contact everyone to answer the questions... maybe not
Maybe i spoke too soon, i got the email today. Same questions as Flybe and GB Airways. I'm not going to be tempted to copy/paste my GB Airways answers though
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