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Old 14th Apr 2007, 16:58
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Oh bugger....has anyone gone through to the aptitude tests with less than the required A-levels and in different subjects too?
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Baffled

Just got a reply from FTE saying that I shall not be receiving an application form.

I find it a little strange... I have an HND in Aero Engineering, a BEng in Mechanical Engineering, a PPL, and I am a serving Naval Officer.

The only reasons I can think of are a) I am 31 and deemed too old b) I have 190 hrs TT c) I do not have the required A levels (but kick those well into touch with the HND and Degree!!)

I think I should have at least had the chance to complete a full aplication form.

Anybody else out there been turned down at such an early stage when you believe you "tick all the right boxes" ?

Oh well, I passed CTC Pilapt so shall continue down that route.

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Old 19th Apr 2007, 09:08
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Box too clever

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Maybe you didn't tick all the boxes!

Not suggesting these are your reasons but there is the attitude box, the overconfident box, the is he full of it box and the could I sit next to him for a whole day or more without him pissing me off box.
A PPL can be a disadvantage because you may need to be 'untaught' bad habits etc
Pardon my arrogance but what does being a serving naval officer have to do with it?

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Old 19th Apr 2007, 09:31
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BigMustard

Thanks for the completely unconstructive, dim witted and tardy reply.

My point (which you clearly missed), was that I met the criterion which FTE had published on their website and was therefore bemused that I had not even had the chance to complete the application form. I was suprised as I had been sent the FlyBe form in a previous application.

The Naval Officer bit is quite relevant as Airlines are very keen on ex-Military (whether aircrew or not). Surely someone, clearly as well informed as yourself, must know this.

I just posted some facts. If you took that to be arrogant then so be it.


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Old 19th Apr 2007, 10:00
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Well well !

As I said MFWF

Not suggetsting these are your reasons
It was not meant to be a
completely unconstructive, dim witted and tardy reply.
The Naval Officer bit is quite relevant as Airlines are very keen on ex-Military (whether aircrew or not). Surely someone, clearly as well informed as yourself, must know this.
I think I might be reasonably well informed - and do not disagree that there are benefits from having served (as I have done in a commissioned rank). It is not however a 'ticket' alone - there are other boxes to be ticked too.

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BigMustard,

You lasted long in the services then!!! 22 and held commissioned rank (or was it RAFVRT / TA etc ???).

Anyway you have no point to make so shall we just drop this silly "discussion" as it is getting rather boring and completley pointless for everyone else reading it.

Thanks

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Old 19th Apr 2007, 11:05
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I am not 22 nor do I live in London - one has to preserve ones anonymity!

You are not too old - whilst it is thought, generally throughout the industry, that 33 should be the upper limit for training, it would now be illegal.
I would 'constructively' suggest that the initial sift is done by computer and that because you have not completed the required 'A' level field you have been rejected. Why not email my old mate and ask him.
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Old 20th Apr 2007, 09:33
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of the two A-Levels listed is required to get through.
I have 1 (3 total) of the ones listed. I got through.
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Old 20th Apr 2007, 11:11
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Although I am not going for it I can confirm that age does not appear to be a barrier to getting through stage one.... the old scheme I believe had a limit of c28... I am somewhat above that and still got sent the questions etc
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Old 20th Apr 2007, 12:07
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MUSTFLYWILLFLY,

It might be down to the 170 hours. Having spoken with a good few training captains, they all suggest that a PPL and 50 hours is about all they want to see in your log before starting an ab-initio scheme. As suggested in another post - they worry they might have to 'undo' any bad habits you might have.

I know its harsh, because the experience counts, but you have to remember these schemes are designed for those to go from zero-to-hero.

Best of luck with CTC
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I have 150+ hours and the hours (and age) didn't stop me getting the questions...
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Old 20th Apr 2007, 13:50
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Well Flashy

I try not to post crap - but ..........that is in the opinion of the reader!

From my instructional days

generally throughout the industry 33 is regarded as the upper limit?
Only because the old grey stops absorbing as quickly - and it is a generalisation & therefore doesn't apply everywhere!

Thanks for the confirmation of the first sift.

As you say

Best of British. (not french!!)

Ps Haven't got my atlas handy - is your lat & long XRY

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Old 22nd Apr 2007, 16:49
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Anyone got a response yet after sending the questions?
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Old 22nd Apr 2007, 18:58
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It should take 2-3 weeks to get an answer. This was my experience with the Flybe MAPS.
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Old 22nd Apr 2007, 19:02
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''

I sent my email 10 days ago and still nothing. Are the assessments all at the same time? I mean I applied for the october course but hope I'll take the selections this summer.
Is someone know when they plan to start the process?

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Old 22nd Apr 2007, 19:04
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Surely there will be no replies until the application date passes (not even sure when this is!) and all of the answers have been reviewed. They are still accepting applications so it will probably be a while yet.
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Old 22nd Apr 2007, 19:05
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They close for applications tonight, so the people who have applied today will still be sent the questions. They then have 3 days to respond, which takes us to wednesday. Last time, phone calls for invites to the next stage took place on the friday. however, it depends how long they take to look through the applications.

Has anyone been to an FTE seminar? what was it like? Is there a dress code? Did many people take parents with them?
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Old 23rd Apr 2007, 07:11
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Looks like the banner is still there. Last time they were only open for applications for 2 weeks. Maybe this time they are going for 3... could be in for a bit of a wait guys
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Old 23rd Apr 2007, 15:57
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The banner has gone now so hopefully it won't be too long before they start getting back to people.
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Old 24th Apr 2007, 10:19
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Just called FTE and asked them:

If someone has applied to this scheme and got through the the approved course, will they their name still be put forward to other airlines, as a recommendation?

The answer, contrary to what someone has said earlier in this thread, was that they cannot recommend you to any other airline if you get onto the approved course.

It looks like once you're on the approved course you're committed to Thomsonfly?
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