Air Atlantique Sponsorship
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air atlantiuque cadet sponsorship
hi there all i recently passed my ppl and want to become a professional pilot!!! (one day) i only have 5 G.C.S.E's including maths/English/science all grade C and above. I recently got a application form from air atlantiuque as they only seemed to be the only ones to accept people for sponsorship without A-levels.Many people are telling me I'm wasting my time as 95% of the people who win the cadet ships are well more educated than me!! Is this true? can anyone shed any light on this? also if i got a night/IMC/ and multi rating before applying would this stand me in better stead? and finally what is there testing procedure you have to get through and can i practice for these via books ect...? I know i have asked alot but any information is much appreciated!!!!! cheers all NEZER
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Taken from http://www.airatlantique.co.uk/
Current Sponsorship
CADET PILOT SPONSORSHIP
Air Atlantique offers CPL pilot sponsorship courses throughout the year. The ideal candidates for selection must meet the following basic requirements;
a) Hold a valid PPL (A)
b) Hold a valid Class One JAR Medical
c) Hold a valid UK driving licence
d) Be aged between 18 and 25 years
e) Be in possession of the right to live and work within theEU
If you are successful, you will be required to relocate to Coventry on a permanent basis.
The Company provides accommodation for the first phase of sponsorship.
You will undertake a tightly controlled training course, which will involve period of ground school, self-study and flying training elements as appropriate.
A period of duties within the Airline Operations Department along with many other operational and general tasks will also be required of you during the first phase of your sponsorship.
In recognition of the Sponsorship provided an agreement for a minimum period of approximately four years after qualification is required. You can expect to qualify with a CPL/IR (Frozen ATPL) within approximately 18 months, after which time, the remaining period of the sponsorship will be the minimum expected duration of employment within the Air Atlantique Group.
Nowhere here does it state educational essentials. Although, most companies I would have thought (hoped), would have minimum educational requirement.
Current Sponsorship
CADET PILOT SPONSORSHIP
Air Atlantique offers CPL pilot sponsorship courses throughout the year. The ideal candidates for selection must meet the following basic requirements;
a) Hold a valid PPL (A)
b) Hold a valid Class One JAR Medical
c) Hold a valid UK driving licence
d) Be aged between 18 and 25 years
e) Be in possession of the right to live and work within theEU
If you are successful, you will be required to relocate to Coventry on a permanent basis.
The Company provides accommodation for the first phase of sponsorship.
You will undertake a tightly controlled training course, which will involve period of ground school, self-study and flying training elements as appropriate.
A period of duties within the Airline Operations Department along with many other operational and general tasks will also be required of you during the first phase of your sponsorship.
In recognition of the Sponsorship provided an agreement for a minimum period of approximately four years after qualification is required. You can expect to qualify with a CPL/IR (Frozen ATPL) within approximately 18 months, after which time, the remaining period of the sponsorship will be the minimum expected duration of employment within the Air Atlantique Group.
Nowhere here does it state educational essentials. Although, most companies I would have thought (hoped), would have minimum educational requirement.
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On a separate note. With the new age discrimination laws coming into play, does this mean Air Atlantique and Highland Airways will no longer be able to impose such age restrictions?
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Just to boost your confidence, I had A-levels and a public school education, the guy that got the cadetship over me didn't have A-levels either. They don't like the silver spoon candedate, so if you show them you are determined and willing to give everything up for flying then you are in with a chance!
I have spoken since with many of the guys there including the chief pilot and the general theme is that they want people who are gonna stay with them for a good period.
That said, the "Fuglyship" is really tough going and takes alot of determination to get through and the job at the end is just as hard. They tend to burn there pilots out. Hence thay want to see that you have staying power.
Best of Luck (trying popping into AFT and seeing if there is a cadet around to have a chat with!!)
Mike
I have spoken since with many of the guys there including the chief pilot and the general theme is that they want people who are gonna stay with them for a good period.
That said, the "Fuglyship" is really tough going and takes alot of determination to get through and the job at the end is just as hard. They tend to burn there pilots out. Hence thay want to see that you have staying power.
Best of Luck (trying popping into AFT and seeing if there is a cadet around to have a chat with!!)
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Girls!!!
Going back to a previous post - why does it seem harder for girls to get selected on Highland/Atlantique-type sponsorships?
Are males 'prefered' (I know that for legal reasons either company are unlikely to admit to this!) for some reason? Or is it simply a matter of numbers, and there are many more lads applying than girlies?
Just interested...
Cheers,
Jake
Are males 'prefered' (I know that for legal reasons either company are unlikely to admit to this!) for some reason? Or is it simply a matter of numbers, and there are many more lads applying than girlies?
Just interested...
Cheers,
Jake
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At the recent Atlantic Airlines intake, there was only one girl of about 20 hopefuls at the first stage, and she didn't make it. To my knowledge there has only been one "mother fug" at Coventry, as the rest haven't been what the company are looking for. At least it proves there isn't 'positive discrimination' towards females there.
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Are males 'prefered' (I know that for legal reasons either company are unlikely to admit to this!) for some reason? Or is it simply a matter of numbers, and there are many more lads applying than girlies?
Being very careful how i put this! i would say guys are 'prefered' now.. as there have been a few problems in the past with female 'Fugleys'! The numbers game will always come into play with aviation jobs as 90% of applicants are guys. The other problem with the Fugley scheme is that it is geared towards guys with the type of work they do without trying to sound too sexist!! They like to work Fugleys VERY hard and put them under plenty of mental pressure to see if they will succumb, and if they do there are plenty more victims that will try and get through the fickle and ever arduous standards that are set. Equality and sympathetic are not words banded around at AAT, more common are 'get the job done' and 'how can you be tired you've only worked a 51, 90 hour weeks in a row without any days off!' 'Working time directive? that doesn't apply to us!' With Fugley attrition rate standing attrition rate standing at a conservative 70% for the last few years why would any female (or guy) want to try there luck...!!??
Being very careful how i put this! i would say guys are 'prefered' now.. as there have been a few problems in the past with female 'Fugleys'! The numbers game will always come into play with aviation jobs as 90% of applicants are guys. The other problem with the Fugley scheme is that it is geared towards guys with the type of work they do without trying to sound too sexist!! They like to work Fugleys VERY hard and put them under plenty of mental pressure to see if they will succumb, and if they do there are plenty more victims that will try and get through the fickle and ever arduous standards that are set. Equality and sympathetic are not words banded around at AAT, more common are 'get the job done' and 'how can you be tired you've only worked a 51, 90 hour weeks in a row without any days off!' 'Working time directive? that doesn't apply to us!' With Fugley attrition rate standing attrition rate standing at a conservative 70% for the last few years why would any female (or guy) want to try there luck...!!??
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Hello all
I handed in my application to Atlantic Flight training a week ago now, they said they would pass on my application to Air Atlantiques offices. Now this was last wednesday and i havnt had any conformation that my application has been recieved, ive been told by a few pilots not to call them as it looks like im being too pushy.
How long did it take them to send you a letter confirming they have received your application, or do they not send one.
Thanks for any reply, im starting to get a bit concerned.
James
I handed in my application to Atlantic Flight training a week ago now, they said they would pass on my application to Air Atlantiques offices. Now this was last wednesday and i havnt had any conformation that my application has been recieved, ive been told by a few pilots not to call them as it looks like im being too pushy.
How long did it take them to send you a letter confirming they have received your application, or do they not send one.
Thanks for any reply, im starting to get a bit concerned.
James
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Originally Posted by atlantique
The other problem with the Fugley scheme is that it is geared towards guys with the type of work they do without trying to sound too sexist!!
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Be aware that they get a lot of applications and it may take a few weeks, or even a month to get a letter saying they have the app! likely you wonthear much until they are recruiting, but its worth keeping them up-to-date with flying hours etc.. although, dont call after every time you have been flying, this could get a little annoying!!
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Well, i sent Air Atlantique an email updating my application and it turns out Atlantic flight training didnt pass on my application as they told me they would. Air Atlantique said they would chase my application up but ill send another anyway tommorow.
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Im sure the admin ladies are very busy, its just that the pilot i gave my app to said he would go and deliver it to AA reception for me. Minor set back but hey ill look at the bright side.... 
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I was at wellesbourne today (29/08), was going flying but didnt in the end. Anyway I was just leaving and saw an atlantic flight training Diamond twin star doing circuits, go arounds. Was it any one of you guys doing a air atlantique cadetship?
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If you saw a DA42, it wouldnt be a cadet for either airlines or atlantique.. They fly the PA44, because it is more like the aircraft we will be flying once qualified ie the 402s and the likes (although airlines do move in a slightly different direction), although the DA42 is nice, i dont think it is particularly well suited to our initial jobs..
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Air Atlantique
Does anybody know if the Air Atlantique Sponsorship upper age limit is likely to be removed in the near future as the new laws for age discrimination have now come into effect??
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