Ba Recruiting App Graduates!
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Ba Recruiting App Graduates!
This is hot off the press guys and gals - British Airways have asked Oxford for 24 APP graduates!
Also, Channel Express (Jet 2) have taken on 11 integrated students out of 11 interviewed! (I believe some were APP and some were standard Integrated Course prior to the first APP course graduates but don't quote me)
Before you all go chewing my face off about where I got this information, I can 100% assure you of its truth. It may not be on the Oxford website yet, but when this does go public there, remember you heard it here first!
Also, Channel Express (Jet 2) have taken on 11 integrated students out of 11 interviewed! (I believe some were APP and some were standard Integrated Course prior to the first APP course graduates but don't quote me)
Before you all go chewing my face off about where I got this information, I can 100% assure you of its truth. It may not be on the Oxford website yet, but when this does go public there, remember you heard it here first!
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Mister Geezer, You obviously have some sour grapes and are an ill informed nitwit - to all those people who constantly whinge about integrated courses, take this as a big in your face - I agree, it might not be right, but to Scroggs and all the other people out there, there are airlines who rightly or wrongly do want integrated students only.
Everyone pays there money and takes their choice and I think this is good news for those who have invested in integrated courses, despite the constant barraging seen on sites like these - it can and does make a difference.
Bigair
PS. I really don't care what people reply to me as I probably wont bother to read it, so save yourself some typing!
Everyone pays there money and takes their choice and I think this is good news for those who have invested in integrated courses, despite the constant barraging seen on sites like these - it can and does make a difference.
Bigair
PS. I really don't care what people reply to me as I probably wont bother to read it, so save yourself some typing!
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Moo,
What is your source ? Would be very surprised, given they have only just finished taking applications from type rated candidates (yesterday), and wont know for 6-8 weeks how many of those have got through.
Also, it's not like BA to advertise such available positions, and finally would be interested to see how many get through the interview and sim - it's not easy you know !
What is your source ? Would be very surprised, given they have only just finished taking applications from type rated candidates (yesterday), and wont know for 6-8 weeks how many of those have got through.
Also, it's not like BA to advertise such available positions, and finally would be interested to see how many get through the interview and sim - it's not easy you know !
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From Oxford's web site:
BA SSP Scheme
If it is exclusive to Oxford it is certainly a coup for the current management. Why not take from Jerez and Cabair as well?
BA SSP Scheme
If it is exclusive to Oxford it is certainly a coup for the current management. Why not take from Jerez and Cabair as well?
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As an integrated student from Oxford who has an airline job in the right hand seat I have no sour grapes at all!!! All I was doing was injecting a bit of light hearted humour into the discussion. Life doesn't have to be serious all the time!!!
Seriously it will be good news if this is the case. A friend of mine on the 73 at LGW said that they are being worked hard and going into discretion has become a bit more frequent than in the past. Running tight on crews??? - who knows!
Seriously it will be good news if this is the case. A friend of mine on the 73 at LGW said that they are being worked hard and going into discretion has become a bit more frequent than in the past. Running tight on crews??? - who knows!
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BigAir,
Your comments on integrated Vs Modular are vailid ones. It is up to individuals.
However why do you bother putting a post on this forum if you claim you are not prepared to read the replys to it anyway.
Your petty, narrow minded arrogance astounds me.
Your comments on integrated Vs Modular are vailid ones. It is up to individuals.
However why do you bother putting a post on this forum if you claim you are not prepared to read the replys to it anyway.
Your petty, narrow minded arrogance astounds me.
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Makes sense if you think about it. Why sponsor pilots when they can pay for their own training with the hope of joining BA? Coupled with retirements and the possibility there are less direct entry applications due to drop in conditions (final salary) would mean that they may need people.
I wouldnt suggest you do an integrated JUST because of this. But it may sway some of you wannabes. Will mean more people signing up for Oxford I guess.
Good luck.
MAX
I wouldnt suggest you do an integrated JUST because of this. But it may sway some of you wannabes. Will mean more people signing up for Oxford I guess.
Good luck.
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Funnily enough John Monks, BAs head of recruitment, told me about a 8 months ago that BA were planning on recruiting about 25 integrated students on their SSP scheme. He said they would be from CAA approved schools Jerez, Oxford, WMU and Cabair though dropped a heavy hint that they hadn't recruited from Cabair for the longest period of time.
I promptly ignored him and signed up with Bristol ground school.. ho hum. Still happy with my choice of course... not sure i could 85%+ in all my exams for a start.
Big Air... it scares me that you might be a pilot one day.. your attitude is astonishing. Maybe you're just very young, I don't know.
I promptly ignored him and signed up with Bristol ground school.. ho hum. Still happy with my choice of course... not sure i could 85%+ in all my exams for a start.
Big Air... it scares me that you might be a pilot one day.. your attitude is astonishing. Maybe you're just very young, I don't know.
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Its less of a coup then, and less of a compliment to Oxford. You wouldn't know that from their website! I wonder if BA will be taking modular students from the likes of Multiflight and CTC?
Its not exclusive to OATS. It does seem to be exclusive to Integrated.
Its 24 slots. Not enough to warrant the £25,000 premium required to go Integrated.
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WWW
Its 24 slots. Not enough to warrant the £25,000 premium required to go Integrated.
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to Scroggs and all the other people out there, there are airlines who rightly or wrongly do want integrated students only
Incidentally, Big Air don't you think your 'Future Training Captain' line in your profile is a teeny bit arrogant?
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My last post deleted as it was off-topic.
Just to add that BA did recruit in this way, unadvertised, in the past to fill spaces that arose due to expansion. Perhaps - one might hope - it is as a stopgap once again, and a revised TEP might work in conjunction with it in the future?
Good news, but still cannot afford to do the training.
Just to add that BA did recruit in this way, unadvertised, in the past to fill spaces that arose due to expansion. Perhaps - one might hope - it is as a stopgap once again, and a revised TEP might work in conjunction with it in the future?
Good news, but still cannot afford to do the training.
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It just goes to show how fickle the job market is.
Only 6 short months ago John Monks was at the Flyer flight training show saying that BA would not be recruiting anyone with a frozen ATPL for the foreseeable future. I guess 6 months *is* the foreseeable future in this industry…
I remember him saying that the order of preference was:
1) Candidates that are experienced and rated on the type they are being recruited to.
2) Candidates that are experienced on other types.
3) Integrated graduates.
He went on to say that as there is an abundance of candidates that fit in to categories 1 & 2, there would be no recruitment of low-houred people for a quite some time.
What does this tell us?
Are experienced candidates in short supply or is BA just not that appealing to many of them?
Either way, recruitment of low-houred pilots is good news for all wannabes.
Only 6 short months ago John Monks was at the Flyer flight training show saying that BA would not be recruiting anyone with a frozen ATPL for the foreseeable future. I guess 6 months *is* the foreseeable future in this industry…
I remember him saying that the order of preference was:
1) Candidates that are experienced and rated on the type they are being recruited to.
2) Candidates that are experienced on other types.
3) Integrated graduates.
He went on to say that as there is an abundance of candidates that fit in to categories 1 & 2, there would be no recruitment of low-houred people for a quite some time.
What does this tell us?
Are experienced candidates in short supply or is BA just not that appealing to many of them?
Either way, recruitment of low-houred pilots is good news for all wannabes.
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If you ACTUALLY read the thread MP, you will actually see that no-one is saying that it is exclusive to Oxford's APP. I in fact have stated that it is not exclusive to Oxford, as has WWW, as has chocksawayUK.
Err, not really.
What you tell us about the conditions to be considered for the SSP is glaringly pointed out in Alex Whittingham's link. (which you haven't looked at - so you wouldn't know)
nope, nothing new there mate
I hope the world is now a little better informed
What you tell us about the conditions to be considered for the SSP is glaringly pointed out in Alex Whittingham's link. (which you haven't looked at - so you wouldn't know)
nope, nothing new there mate
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I have no wish to get involved in one of those oh so familiar and terribly exciting PPRUNE slanging matches so I shall keep this short.
Mr Moo, at which point did I say YOU had said that it was exclusive to Oxford? I merely pointed out that it was not exclusive to Oxford as someone else had raised the question at the early stages.
No I haven´t looked at the links as I thought I´d quickly summarize the situation in my post for those reading the thread. As it was, WWW etcs posts came up whilst I was in the process of typing my reply so beat me to it.
Calm down, it´s a commercial.....
As I said and I´m sure you´ll agree - positive news but no guarantees at all. Ciao.
Mr Moo, at which point did I say YOU had said that it was exclusive to Oxford? I merely pointed out that it was not exclusive to Oxford as someone else had raised the question at the early stages.
No I haven´t looked at the links as I thought I´d quickly summarize the situation in my post for those reading the thread. As it was, WWW etcs posts came up whilst I was in the process of typing my reply so beat me to it.
Calm down, it´s a commercial.....
As I said and I´m sure you´ll agree - positive news but no guarantees at all. Ciao.