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If anyone could PM me some or their suggestions or answers then that would be a great starting point.
If you don't know what to write then just maybe you should be questioning your desire, motivation and ability to become a pilot. Did you have much trouble filling out the initial application form or did you get mummy and daddy to help you?
And to answer your next question (The viffer knows everything), wear a suit!!
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Hi guys, 
I have my stage 2 coming up soon and was hoping for some helpful souls on here to give me a hand with some answers to questions I have about Stage 2 and 3. I have already passed the first phase*.
Could someone pm me with what to wear for the stage 2? Do you think a suit is too formal? Or should I go with a pilots uniform? Maybe with four gold bar epualettes to show my ambition? I'm really unsure about what to wear to possibly the most important interview I'll ever do if I want to be a pillock, sorry pilot...
I know it might sound strange to some but to I am at a loss at what to choose. I mean a suit? That seems so outrageous! It would be the last thing on my list. I usually wear a tutu to my interviews...
As for the the written answers... I don't really know what to do there because I can't actually hand-write. Big failing I know, but I guess I'm just lazy! What I really want is you fellas help and anyone on the course aready to give me the answers. Because I'd need help on it, and I want to take a few days to think up a good answer. I'm sure during the interview process they would give you a few days to answer...
And do they give you a laptop for the interview or do you have to provide your own so you can access pprune when a tough question comes up?
Looking forward to everyone's pm's and constructive answers - heaven knows I couldn't come up with my own.
Davey
*Filling in the online application is the first tough hurdle right?
I have my stage 2 coming up soon and was hoping for some helpful souls on here to give me a hand with some answers to questions I have about Stage 2 and 3. I have already passed the first phase*.
Could someone pm me with what to wear for the stage 2? Do you think a suit is too formal? Or should I go with a pilots uniform? Maybe with four gold bar epualettes to show my ambition? I'm really unsure about what to wear to possibly the most important interview I'll ever do if I want to be a pillock, sorry pilot...
I know it might sound strange to some but to I am at a loss at what to choose. I mean a suit? That seems so outrageous! It would be the last thing on my list. I usually wear a tutu to my interviews...
As for the the written answers... I don't really know what to do there because I can't actually hand-write. Big failing I know, but I guess I'm just lazy! What I really want is you fellas help and anyone on the course aready to give me the answers. Because I'd need help on it, and I want to take a few days to think up a good answer. I'm sure during the interview process they would give you a few days to answer...
And do they give you a laptop for the interview or do you have to provide your own so you can access pprune when a tough question comes up?
Looking forward to everyone's pm's and constructive answers - heaven knows I couldn't come up with my own.
Davey
*Filling in the online application is the first tough hurdle right?
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The Phantom Viffer,
I apologise in advance for the language i'm about to use.
We're you born a **** or did you take a degree in it?
Why the **** do you need to be so arrogant, aggresive, and downright rude. I'm simply asking for some advice on how others approached the questions. The main reason i ask is cos i don't want to spoil the only chance i'll have of getting through because i have that DESIRE and don't want to be dissapointed!! There is no harm in asking for advice.
PPRUNE is generally a friendly place to post but there are some tossers like you that spoil it. Did mummy and daddy drop you while you were a baby or something?
You obviously didn't get through and hence the aggresion, so pipe down.
G-BXVK
Apologies to everyone for the abusive language but when anyone questions my desire i get upset!
I apologise in advance for the language i'm about to use.
We're you born a **** or did you take a degree in it?
Why the **** do you need to be so arrogant, aggresive, and downright rude. I'm simply asking for some advice on how others approached the questions. The main reason i ask is cos i don't want to spoil the only chance i'll have of getting through because i have that DESIRE and don't want to be dissapointed!! There is no harm in asking for advice.
PPRUNE is generally a friendly place to post but there are some tossers like you that spoil it. Did mummy and daddy drop you while you were a baby or something?
You obviously didn't get through and hence the aggresion, so pipe down.
G-BXVK
Apologies to everyone for the abusive language but when anyone questions my desire i get upset!
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We're you born a **** or did you take a degree in it?
Why the **** do you need to be so arrogant, aggresive, and downright rude.
I'm simply asking for some advice on how others approached the questions.
If anyone could PM me some or their suggestions or answers
i don't want to spoil the only chance i'll have of getting through because i have that DESIRE and don't want to be dissapointed!!
PPRUNE is generally a friendly place to post but there are some tossers like you that spoil it.
You obviously didn't get through and hence the aggresion, so pipe down.
Apologies to everyone for the abusive language but when anyone questions my desire i get upset!
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Interesting post Phantom I do love the banter between PPruners. One thing that is confusing me is this thread - is it a CTC Wings Cadetship thread or a CTC Wings ATP thread?
I think CTC Wings ATP posts should be placed on the CTC ATP - Ville thread not this one. That way we know what advice to give if any. I have already posted a snippet on the ATP Ville topic. Get to it CTC ATP guys and streamline the threads.
Rollerboy
I think CTC Wings ATP posts should be placed on the CTC ATP - Ville thread not this one. That way we know what advice to give if any. I have already posted a snippet on the ATP Ville topic. Get to it CTC ATP guys and streamline the threads.
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I think Phantom Viffer makes a valid point, whether or not people are upset/offended by it. It is also made without using offensive language or resorting to name-calling.
Sometimes the questions on forums like this DO have an element of "Can you walk me through exactly what I should say/do at each stage please?". Not all of them of course, and maybe G-BXVK didn't mean this as much as it came across.
I think people get slightly irked at questions like this because, as everyone knows, this pilot malarky, especially sponsorship, is bloody hard work and it comes out when, on occasion, prospective applicants ask questions like what to wear for interview, what they should say when asked why they want to fly, etc.
My 2p of advice? Have confidence in your own abilities and be honest with your answers - they'll spot you a nautical mile off if you're not genuine. Don't be a wannabe clone.
Rollerboy,
This was set up as as a Wings thread but, like you say, the odd ATP slant pops up. It must be confusing sometimes for posters. I second the motion to use the right thread after a quick check!
Good luck people (as long as I'm not the competition ),
V1R
Sometimes the questions on forums like this DO have an element of "Can you walk me through exactly what I should say/do at each stage please?". Not all of them of course, and maybe G-BXVK didn't mean this as much as it came across.
I think people get slightly irked at questions like this because, as everyone knows, this pilot malarky, especially sponsorship, is bloody hard work and it comes out when, on occasion, prospective applicants ask questions like what to wear for interview, what they should say when asked why they want to fly, etc.
My 2p of advice? Have confidence in your own abilities and be honest with your answers - they'll spot you a nautical mile off if you're not genuine. Don't be a wannabe clone.
Rollerboy,
This was set up as as a Wings thread but, like you say, the odd ATP slant pops up. It must be confusing sometimes for posters. I second the motion to use the right thread after a quick check!
Good luck people (as long as I'm not the competition
),V1R
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Is it worth to apply for CTC Wings if one is from abroad and not a native english speaker? The travel costs from here to test center would be some £250 so the total sum for applying would be at least some £400+acom.
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On route,
The Wings cadet website cites the follwing as requirements for aplication...
• You must be able to prove your unrestricted legal right to live and work in the EU
• You must have passed a minimum of 5 GCSEs at grade C or above, to include Maths, English and a Science
• You must have 2 A Levels at grade C or above - or an Honours Degree, minimum level 2:2. (Equivalent qualifications will be considered)
• You must be fluent in written and spoken English
Being froim abroad, I guess they will over look the GCSE in English so long as you can prove that you are fluent in writen and spoken English.
M330
The Wings cadet website cites the follwing as requirements for aplication...
• You must be able to prove your unrestricted legal right to live and work in the EU
• You must have passed a minimum of 5 GCSEs at grade C or above, to include Maths, English and a Science
• You must have 2 A Levels at grade C or above - or an Honours Degree, minimum level 2:2. (Equivalent qualifications will be considered)
• You must be fluent in written and spoken English
Being froim abroad, I guess they will over look the GCSE in English so long as you can prove that you are fluent in writen and spoken English.
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Hello to all,
I am writing for some advice regarding the CTC Wings selection tests.
I was hoping that someone out there who has passed could offer some advice on how to pass the multi tasking test - the one that involves centreing the lines as well as identfying shapes and listening to a numerical count.
To me, this test was too difficult when I attempted first time round.
Is it best to concentrate on the hand eye part or the shapes aspect? Or do you try and do a little bit of everything?
If anyone has any advice or tis on what they are looking for with this one I sure would appreciate it.
Thanks guys and girls!
I am writing for some advice regarding the CTC Wings selection tests.
I was hoping that someone out there who has passed could offer some advice on how to pass the multi tasking test - the one that involves centreing the lines as well as identfying shapes and listening to a numerical count.
To me, this test was too difficult when I attempted first time round.
Is it best to concentrate on the hand eye part or the shapes aspect? Or do you try and do a little bit of everything?
If anyone has any advice or tis on what they are looking for with this one I sure would appreciate it.
Thanks guys and girls!
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I don't think there is a correct method to try and beat the test, i think it uses quite sophisticated methods to work out how well you are doing.
It really isnt too difficult when it's broken down into parts, but it becomes an overload when combined.
I found the counting part the most difficult (purely because i wasnt 100% sure on what exactly was going on), and the shapes the easier part.
If you find a particular section easier focus on that and the centering, always keep a look out for the other part your supposed to be watching.
Try and ignore the hits and misses as it really doesn't help looking how your doing!!!
I think it really is a test of your mental capacity and concentration levels, i think that you can either do it to the required standard or you can't... you should find it a little easier next time round knowing what's coming though!
Finally keep on going no matter how bad you think your doing as everyone finds it extremely challenging, you really won't be doing as bad as you think you are.
All the best, let me know how it goes
I don't think there is a correct method to try and beat the test, i think it uses quite sophisticated methods to work out how well you are doing.
It really isnt too difficult when it's broken down into parts, but it becomes an overload when combined.
I found the counting part the most difficult (purely because i wasnt 100% sure on what exactly was going on), and the shapes the easier part.
If you find a particular section easier focus on that and the centering, always keep a look out for the other part your supposed to be watching.
Try and ignore the hits and misses as it really doesn't help looking how your doing!!!
I think it really is a test of your mental capacity and concentration levels, i think that you can either do it to the required standard or you can't... you should find it a little easier next time round knowing what's coming though!
Finally keep on going no matter how bad you think your doing as everyone finds it extremely challenging, you really won't be doing as bad as you think you are.
All the best, let me know how it goes
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Hi all,
Just found out that I didn't get through stage 3
I really hate this feeling that yesterday I seemed so so close and now I am back at square one!
Geeze you guys (and gals) weren't kidding, this industry is a real real hard nut to crack.
Good luck to the rest of you still in the application process!
Just found out that I didn't get through stage 3
I really hate this feeling that yesterday I seemed so so close and now I am back at square one!
Geeze you guys (and gals) weren't kidding, this industry is a real real hard nut to crack.
Good luck to the rest of you still in the application process!
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Oh, and I was arrested but never charged for throwing eggs at a friends car a few years back
I've heard stories of these background checks coming to pretty silly conclusions before - like throwing an egg at a mate's car years ago makes you pre-disposed to blowing things up or something
Sorry to hear of your dissappointment - CTC's selction sounds really tough. Well done for getting invited to Stage 3 anyway. Keep up the hard work and best of luck.
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jb5000,
I sympathise completely. I found out I didn't make the cut at Stage 3 a few weeks ago and was completely gutted as I thought the day went really well. But c'est la vie, there's nothing I can do to change their minds.
Just keep going mate, there's other ways in
BB
I sympathise completely. I found out I didn't make the cut at Stage 3 a few weeks ago and was completely gutted as I thought the day went really well. But c'est la vie, there's nothing I can do to change their minds.
Just keep going mate, there's other ways in
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Hey Guys,
I'm afraid I've become just another number.....second attempt got to phase 4. I got so close to going I could almost smell New Zealand. Then they said no.
The unfortunate and annoying thing is, I was chopped for being someone I'm not. In both stages 3 and 4 I came across as dominant and a little over eager.
This is totally unlike me, I'm not confrontational at all but I wanted to get onto this scheme SO badly that my determination turned around and bit me on the a*se, and made me seem overpowering.
I've had many, many knock backs from sponsorships in my time. After each one it just makes me even more determined to achieve my life time ambition and prove these assessors wrong.
I will become a Commercial Pilot, and I will make my future employer proud in their investment in me.
Chin up to all you guys and girls who have shared the same predicament. Like Britboy says, this isn't the only way in.
I'm afraid I've become just another number.....second attempt got to phase 4. I got so close to going I could almost smell New Zealand. Then they said no.
The unfortunate and annoying thing is, I was chopped for being someone I'm not. In both stages 3 and 4 I came across as dominant and a little over eager.
This is totally unlike me, I'm not confrontational at all but I wanted to get onto this scheme SO badly that my determination turned around and bit me on the a*se, and made me seem overpowering.
I've had many, many knock backs from sponsorships in my time. After each one it just makes me even more determined to achieve my life time ambition and prove these assessors wrong.
I will become a Commercial Pilot, and I will make my future employer proud in their investment in me.
Chin up to all you guys and girls who have shared the same predicament. Like Britboy says, this isn't the only way in.
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Hello all...
just wondering if there is anyone here who attended stage 3 selection on the 4th of may??I have just found out that ive made it through to stage 4 on the 12th..and im hoping ill be seeing some of you others from stage 3 there aswell..i was andy from the red group by the way!!
Gillesspie...really sorry to here about your stage 4 result..must be so gutting finding out when you have got so far..and im hoping i wont be another casualty...any info on the sim format would be most grateful...if ofcourse you dont mind sharing..it would be of great help not just to me but to all the readers!!
Cheers
Moffman
just wondering if there is anyone here who attended stage 3 selection on the 4th of may??I have just found out that ive made it through to stage 4 on the 12th..and im hoping ill be seeing some of you others from stage 3 there aswell..i was andy from the red group by the way!!
Gillesspie...really sorry to here about your stage 4 result..must be so gutting finding out when you have got so far..and im hoping i wont be another casualty...any info on the sim format would be most grateful...if ofcourse you dont mind sharing..it would be of great help not just to me but to all the readers!!
Cheers
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Hey Andy,
It's James here, we were chatting at the end just after you came out of your interview.
Unfortunately I didn't get through , my interview technique is really really bad!
Best of luck with the sim, I'm sure you'll do great! For me its off to Oxford if I can get the cash together (a big IF)!
Looks like the cup holder was the way forwards after all!
All the best,
James
It's James here, we were chatting at the end just after you came out of your interview.
Unfortunately I didn't get through
, my interview technique is really really bad!Best of luck with the sim, I'm sure you'll do great! For me its off to Oxford if I can get the cash together (a big IF)!
Looks like the cup holder was the way forwards after all!
All the best,
James
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hey james
sorry to hear about the result...oxford is a great option so good luck with it all!!Im hoping there is gonna be a few\ of us from last week there on thurs...as you know the crew room is a very lonely place if you are not flying!!
regards
sorry to hear about the result...oxford is a great option so good luck with it all!!Im hoping there is gonna be a few\ of us from last week there on thurs...as you know the crew room is a very lonely place if you are not flying!!
regards