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Old 1st Apr 2006, 17:22
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Hi there,

This is my first post on the CTC forum despite reading a lot of it over the past few weeks, very helpful I might add! Thanks to everyone that has posted on it.

I have my stage 3 coming up and was wondering if anyone who has attended stage 3 recently could tell me of any questions that were asked at the interview? Any advice would be greatly appreciated!

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Old 2nd Apr 2006, 22:35
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Has anybody heard anymore about the CTC Wings Cadet scheme becoming an integrated scheme? There was talk about it towards the beginning of this thread but I haven't heard anything since.

Hullabaloo

Your question on Stage 3 has been asked many times already on this thread. Have a search and you'll find a few gems. I would suggest researching the industry you hope to join and the course you hope to undertake as well as the standard questions all interviewers ask.

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Old 2nd Apr 2006, 22:37
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As far as i know the CTC Wings scheme is integrated. Thats certainly the impression i got when i was at my assessment.
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Old 2nd Apr 2006, 23:06
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Originally Posted by Hullabaloo

I have my stage 3 coming up and was wondering if anyone who has attended stage 3 recently could tell me of any questions that were asked at the interview? Any advice would be greatly appreciated!

Hullabaloo
I've just got on the CTC Wings scheme and am off to NZ in August, and I'll give you the same advice as I've given others that have asked for it...

I know it's been said millions of times, but seriously just BE YOURSELF. There's no point going to your interview with pre-prepared answers - most of what I got asked was based around what I'd put on my application form, about my jobs and extra-curricular activities and so on so there's no point in me telling you the actual questions because they'd be completely different for you. You do need to show evidence of being able to work well in a team and the amount of technical stuff asked appears to depend on your flying experience so far - I got hardly any but one or two others on my day got quite a bit. Do a bit of research into the airlines CTC places cadets with. And really, just relax and enjoy the day as much as possible. I was nervous and I expect most people who do it will be, but even though you have to keep in mind you're being assessed, your true personality will come across best if you really get stuck into, and enjoy, the group exercises.

Just do your best on the day, and try not to get too nervous about it. Very best of luck.

EDIT: Fat Albert, the scheme is now definitely integrated - they make this clear at the Stage 2 presentation as far as I can remember.
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Old 3rd Apr 2006, 00:54
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well if i'm still not sorted by september, i'll be reapplying for the ctc wings scheme. Hopefully i'll get all the way next time around, if needs be.
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How can the scheme be called integrated when there is still flexibility on how much time you spend in NZ for the basic (PPL) phase? An integrated course is one where you have to redo your entire PPL training, CTC are still allowing flexibility on this remember. Furthermore ATPL ground school is still distance learning based. I’m not so sure your information is correct!
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The course as it stands just now is modular. It should be changing to integrated in the very near future, and I guess this is why applicants at stage 2 are being given this information now because if successful they will be joining an integrated course.
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Old 3rd Apr 2006, 11:03
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What does that say about the basic phase and the refunds that are currently offered to those with post PPL hours? All going to change?
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Old 3rd Apr 2006, 22:32
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i'm pretty sure when i was at phase 2 that they mentioned the ground school was taught classroom hours and not distance learning
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They have what is a structured modular course - the G/S is done over in NZ via distance learning Bristol, which currently procludes the CAA from giving the course integrated status. Only Cabair, OAT, FTE and WAAC are CAA approved integrated courses.
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Phase 3

Mornin' All,
I had my phase 3 two days ago and unfortunately failed. I sat there in the interview and mummbled sh!te about all sorts of things and never gave any real specific answers....... idiot! Anywho, they have called me back as one of the two interviewers must have seen something! My question to anyone in the know is what is the pass rate after an initial fail? I would pressume I have a better chance now than I did then but still not sure. Who else is/was in the same boat? I still have my degree to finish off so the 6 months isn't an issue but I am considering other avenues. CTC have been very reserved in there feedback and I am wandering if the next interview will be the same i.e start again or a case of just asking what has changed between then and now. If you've also failed stage 3 and were given a second chance can you let me know what the deal is? If your out there now congrats........and the best of luck to colley_316 who is probaly in the kingair sim now doing his stage 4!! Lucky sod
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Old 6th Apr 2006, 09:59
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Old 6th Apr 2006, 10:42
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Sorry to hear that you didn't get through this time.

Did you turn up in Jumper and Trousers again or did you wear a suit?

Do they specifically tell you that you failed the interview section or could it have been the group exercises?

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Old 6th Apr 2006, 11:06
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Suit this time!!

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This time I wore a suit. I had never owned a suit before so purchased one for the occasion. At least I will wear it once more this year in October! They didn't give specific feedback due to limited resources but did give a list of things that could have gone wrong and by my own admission noticed that it would have been the interview that did it. I have never had a formal interview before as all my previous jobs were of the cash in hand nature or for family/friends!!

Jb5000
Thankyou for the advice it instills yet more confidence and those group exercises weren't difficult but due to everyone trying to make the same points and tick the right boxes it is hard not to step on anyones toes.

I did well on the tech questions but never once sold myself to female HR interviewer. For some reason I thought that because they had my application in front of them I wouldn't have to go over experiences I had put on it and ended up rambling on about general points..........not good. When I left I even went back through it in my head and the BA captain even tried to give me prompts at one point to expand on a piece of experience which I glossed over and moved on. I cant beleive it, but over the last 48 hours have learned alot about airline interview technique and would happily take the stage again tommorrow. However, there is a wait now till I finish Uni so not all bad. Be aware guys/gals that the interview is semi-structured and they want you to be yourself. Also remember that you are being interviewed by professionals that know exactly what they are looking for, so never forget to stop selling yourself aslong as you can justify your confidence with well thought out answers and experiences. Good luck to those currently going through the process and I will see some of you again in October for stage 3. If you are lucky enough to get through this stage congratulations, if you get the opportunity to resit then do it. Even though I hated myself yesterday and felt sick it really isn't the end of the world to be offered a second attempt. Best of luck to SMOOTHFLYER and COLLEY_316 who both had stage 4 today. Be sure to let us know how it went even if, like me, it didn't quite work out. Ding Ding........ bring on round 2!!

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Old 6th Apr 2006, 20:58
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Talking Yay...stage 2 here I come!

Hi all!

Just spent the last few days reading the 37 odd pages on this thread. Boy are there alot of info! I still have a few questions though...

My eyes are as follows:

Aided = VA right 6/5, VA left 6/5
Unaided = VA right 6/10, VA left 6/7.5

I have had a look at the JAR class 1 visual standards, but do not understand some of the technical terms. I have asked my optometrist, but she was extremely unhelpful.

It says:

"Must be at least 6/9 in each eye separately and 6/6 using both eyes together...with or without glasses"

Does that mean I pass the visual standards? I don't want to book phase two and spend 164.50 if I dont stand a chance in passing the medical. Apart from my eyesight, I am healthy and fit, and see no reason why I would fail the JAR class 1.

The dates that have been given to me for phase 2 are the 5th of May or the 12th of May. Anyone here planning to go on either of these two days? Where are you planning to stay?

Also, for phase two, apart from brushing up on my Maths is there anything else I need to do, like read up on the industry etc, or is this more for the third stage. I am currently in my final year of uni, and the phase 2 test is also during my examination period. I do not see myself being free enough to study up on the industry. If they are looking for knowledge of the industry and flying in general at this stage, I think it may be best if I ask them to provide me with a later date.

Anyways, I hope you guys/gals can answer some of my questions.

Thanks in advance,

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Old 6th Apr 2006, 21:46
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Maybe best to ask that question in the medical forum, but it sounds to me as if, yes, you need glasses, but with the glasses your eyesight is fine. Top number bigger than the bottom number means that your eyesight is better than average and vice versa. You haven't quoted a figure for 'both eyes together' but since you are 6/5 in each one with glasses I can't see that being a problem...
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In the same boat...hope it's not overcrowded and tips over!

Reverand,

I had my phase 3 at the start of march and failed due to my frightening ignorance with regards to the aviation industry. They've said I can re-apply in 6 months (septemberish) so I'm gonna try get a job at Leeds Bradford airport after I graduate and become a plane nerd! What have you learnt about the 'resits'? is the pass rate favourable second time round or not? If you still have the email saying you failed could you paste me the bits about what I should concentrate on...I deleted it in anger stupidly!
Thanks,

FLAC
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Old 7th Apr 2006, 11:21
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Anyone out there doing Stage 4 on 13th April?
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Old 7th Apr 2006, 12:01
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anyone got phase 3 on the 18th of april?
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Old 7th Apr 2006, 12:12
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SMOOTHFLIER

how did u get on???
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