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After reading some articles, working conditions and contracts are bad.
I meet a crew in Luanda, Angola they fly from Houston to Luanda weekly, and one first officer told me that they shall return home, but company could change their plans and stay away from home 1 or 2 weeks. |
Don't believe everything you read about Atlas. Not a bad place to work, but remember it is basically in the non-sched business but does also have plenty of sched. stuff. If you want Fedex or UPS type flying Atlas is not for you.
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Actually, the CVG 767 flying IS "FedEx or UPS type flying" for DHL!
You may also have a skewed view of the ACMI business. Probably 60-75% of Atlas' business is scheduled, albeit on a quarterly or monthly basis. Most long-term ACMI and CMI customers have relatively stable schedules. For Atlas, those include DHL, SonAir, Panalpina, and AMC. Qantas and Boeing allude to stable schedules, but have more variation than the others. |
Compare retirement plans.
Compare DAL, UAL, FedEx. Compare Compare Compare |
Maybe Atlas is the only one hiring! I'm sure almost all pilots would rather work for United, Delta, UPS, or Fedex. Does not seem there are enough positions for everyone at those companies. Guess I would just sit a home waiting for the call from one of them.
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Projected hiring at the 3 legacies / FX / UPS is in the thousands for the next few years. Sooner or later they will call.
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Does anyone really want to get into the middle of this?
DHL under fire as American pilots eye strike action over German influence on US airlines - The Loadstar |
The Loadstar needs to learn US labor law if they're going to write about it. The 30 day "cooling down period" before a strike comes into play after a federal mediator declares the parties are at an impasse. The mediator doesn't show up until the parties stop making progress on their own. It's normal for airline contract talks to go on 2 or 3 years. Atlas just started the end of last year. It'll be a boiling pot for the foreseeable future.
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The "normal" years long pace of contract negotiations is only thanks to management dragging their feet in order to realize additional "savings" by operating under a cheaper contract. The union is prepared to expedite negotiations but only for FAIR INDUSTRY STANDARD TERMS.
Unfortunately, the opportunity cost here for everyone are the customer contracts NOT signed (Amazon) because the company is sorely understaffed and poorly managed during the recent growth phase. Why are they poorly staffed and missing opportunities for more growth? Because of the same cheap contract that they insist on dragging out as long as they can. This is called: Cutting off your nose to spite your face. All you have to do in order to prove this point is to compare recent ATSG stock price action to AAWW. Clear as day. Oh, and guess which crews are more expensive? Further proving the ability to attract customers is NOT based on crew costs but the ABILITY TO DELIVER. At this point, Atlas is failing to deliver on several different levels. |
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There is a lot more than meets the eye here. DHL bought a 49% operational interest in Polar (who was bought by Atlas). They have a lot of influence on corporate decisions with regards to operations. And to the union position on substandard, I know Bob K. and it is not only pay that is substandard but the QOL is way down the list of desirable Atlas traits. You mentioned UPS and FedEx. While i do not much about UPS I do know the average flying line at FedEx is 24 hours. Try that with an ACMI carrier. Atlas will never ever catch up and have no reason to. FedEx is hiring a class of 30 a month with no end in sight. I suggest you give them a go. It is a thousand times better deal. And FedEX DOES NOT FURLOUGH, period |
DAY ONE ~ What does it mean?
Southern and ATLAS/POLAR are together as one.
Now, when you turn up for class, excited about the 747, be ready for 737 Class. Based in CVG working ONLY the vampire night sort on short Legs for 20 day blocks. Rig Works out to guarantee. The guarantee is $59.42 hour on 60 hours p/m and you will not break guarantee. Oh and if that ain't enough, welcome to a three year seat lock. When the dust settles and a contract is signed, then, reconsider. Respectfully Atlast |
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Southern and ATLAS/POLAR are together as one. Now, when you turn up for class, excited about the 747, be ready for 737 Class. Based in CVG working ONLY the vampire night sort on short Legs for 20 day blocks. ONLY the preliminary purchase has been completed - Atlas Holdings bought Southern Holdings. Southern Air still is a COMPLETELY SEPARATE airline with a COMPLETELY SEPARATE hiring and training track, done by entirely different people. Operations as a single airline under a single certificate are AT LEAST a year in the future, likely longer. |
Atlas/southern
Training separate, yes. Hiring, now under control of atlas. All of our interviewing has been put on "hold"
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To be considered, do they want to be US citizen???
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You must be "Legally authorized to work in the United States." Translates as a citizen or a "green card" holder which means you are a permanent resident.
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Good News for the Atlas pilots as Amazon has agreed to wet lease 20 more 767s. This should increase newhires for the foreseeable future.
Amazon agrees to contract 20 767 freighters from Atlas Air | Airframes content from ATWOnline |
"Good news"? I don't think so. At this point I'd call it more of a pipe dream...
There is still a 4-month backlog in OE, and the May class was cancelled. It is VERY difficult to understand how the company will staff 20 more airplanes, especially when the contract negotiations are stalled. |
are there any updates on interview questions?
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