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Sleeping Freight Dog 15th Jan 2010 01:37

I was talking to some of the Sands Tristar Captains. The planes are not for sale, they are being short termed stored at RAZ until needed for a flight.
Apparently the ramp fees are very reasonable there. Also one of the Captains said that he had ferried the 2nd aircraft recently, the one in Saudi colors. This looks like it might be getting ready to get its gloss over.

411A 15th Jan 2010 01:42


I'm wondering if the DL -250's are viable then. Worth cutting a door in them for freight?
Negative, too expensive.
I fly a -250 now (two actually)...very nice airplanes.
Pax only.

glhcarl 15th Jan 2010 01:47


Engines on the -250 model are the same as on the -500. IE: RB.211-524B402.

The RB.211-524B402 can also be installed on the -200's.


However, -524B402 engines can be installed, but...the number two position requires mods to the titanium ring.
When installing the -524B4 in the No. 2 position no modification to the titanium ring (?) is required. However, the the "inlet adapter cone" of the S-Duct requires modification.

Is that an ex-BA example in the near background that i see ?
s/n 193N-1182 a -200F, ex-BA (G-BGBC), American International and Kitty Hawk (N107CK).

Are the -100's, -200's, or 250's viable for service anymore or is engine support dead except for the -500's now?
Rolls Royce still maintains the RB.211-524's that power the -200's, -250's and -500's.

I'm wondering if the DL -250's are viable then. Worth cutting a door in them for freight?
Only 5 of the 6 -250's still exist. If you have about 14 million that you are not using I am sure Marshall will be happy to speak to you about adding the cargo door.

411A 15th Jan 2010 15:20


Only one 'Titanium Ring' on the 'Tristar-asaurus' Rex that I know of.....
Would that be the "inlet adapter cone" referenced earlier, which is made of titanium and is generally circular...or, another one?:}

For reference, these are available ex-VCV from scrapped -500 aircraft, however....they ain't cheap, presently.
The L1011 is a very reliable aircraft, IF operated and maintained by folks who know how.
In the last five years, I have had nil flights delayed for other than traffic/ATC reasons....except for two deflated tires, that was caused by FOD...bits from an Airboos:eek:, as it turned out.

glhcarl 15th Jan 2010 15:33


Would that be the "inlet adapter cone" referenced earlier, which is made of titanium and is generally circular...or, another one?http://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/sr...s/badteeth.gif

Sorry but the inlet adapter cone is made from aluminum, just like the rest of the "S-Duct".

411A 15th Jan 2010 16:57


Sorry but the inlet adapter cone is made from aluminum, just like the rest of the "S-Duct".
Nevertheless, it is required to be modified/changed for the fitment of -524B402 engines on those aircraft not so equipped from the factory.
Many man-hours required, at considerable cost.
IE: not viable...except for certain operators (Orbital Science, for example).

glhcarl 15th Jan 2010 19:47


Many man-hours required, at considerable cost.

The major expense when installing the -524B4 engines (other than the engines) is replacing the stainless steel ECS ducts with titanium ducts.

411A 15th Jan 2010 20:27


PM me if you can help - Thanks
Send detailed info about yourself if you are truly interested, via PM and I will see what I can do.
PS
Be prepared to pay, big time, as gen decs, via our handling agents, are pricey.
Otherwise, you are most welcome.

ferrydude 27th Jan 2010 08:05

AHM Hangar - L-1011 Journal

Stratofreighter 31st Jan 2010 16:51

And she is "at home" now... :)
AHM Hangar - Movies - Elle's Arrival in KansasCity .
For pre-flight engine tests and taxi trials, see
AHM Hangar - Movies - L-1011 Engine Start, Run Up and Taxiing inRoswell .
Yes, you can certainly hear the well-loved "rumble" on start-up!

boguing 31st Jan 2010 17:55

Just out of interest, what would the 1:200 scale metal model given to suppliers be worth these days? Wondering if it should be notified on house contents insurance?

Dad was Chief Engineer on the RB at Rolls Royce.

Nom De Guerre 1st Feb 2010 12:40

Prison bosses forced to pay damages to jailed paedophile over tootache - The Daily Record

Happiness wasn't a warm.... :hmm:


Prison bosses forced to pay damages to jailed paedophile over tootache

Dec 13 2009 Charlie Gall, Sunday Mail

A SEX beast has won a cash payout from prison bosses who couldn't find a dentist to treat his toothache.

Paedophile Neil Robertson launched the compensation claim from his cell in Peterhead Prison, it emerged yesterday.

He blamed prison chiefs for failing to find an NHS dentist to treat his toothache and sued the Scottish Prison Service over a delay in treatment.

He has now received an out-of-court settlement.

Robertson, 44, from Ayrshire, was jailed for life in 2003 for abusing a seven-year-old girl.

He met the girl's mother through an internet chat room and wormed his way into her affections by pretending he had been a pilot, a businessman and qualified psychologist.

He quickly turned his attention to the youngster and within weeks he was taking photographs of himself abusing the girl.

Robertson was described by the judge at his trial in Dunfermline, as a "dangerous psychopath" with a 20-year interest in young girls.

The payout has been agreed at a time when Aberdeenshire has one of the longest UK waiting lists of people seeking an NHS dentist.

Furious Lesley Wood, 22, a nursery assistant from Aberdeen, has been without an NHS dentist for six years.

She condemned the payout, saying: "It's totally out of order. People are paying for emergency treatment and he's getting our money. All his teeth should be ripped out after what he did."

Shadow justice spokesman and north-east Labour MSP Richard Baker described the settlement as "extraordinary".

He said: "This is public money and people rightly find compensation payments to prisoners offensive. It is a sad irony that many people have problems getting access to dental treatment but now this prisoner has sought compensation for dental pain.

"Prison authorities need to take every step they can to stop prisoners being able to sue for compensation. The Scottish Government should also take further action."

Kincardine and West Aberdeenshire MSP Mike Rumbles said the public would be outraged at seeing a sex offender compensated.

He said: "The dental crisis in the north-east is the worst in the country. It affects everyone and I'm not surprised the prison service failed to find access to an NHS dentist."

A prisons spokesman refused to disclose how much was paid but did say: "I can confirm that a prisoner in HMP Peterhead has been given an out-of-court settlement for a failure by SPS to provide appropriate dental treatment."

CR2 2nd Feb 2010 20:48

The post above by NdG refers to our own "Guv" for those that remember :suspect:

camilo1 3rd Feb 2010 16:21

Isn`t "Guv" the guy who supposedly was going to buy the delta L-1011 fleet in VCV and start a new airline in Europe?.

If it is him, yes I remember.

:yuk:

Raffles 3rd Feb 2010 17:53

Indeed he talked a good job & convinced many people to actually part with cash!! A couple of mates in Engineering were going to survey the aircraft until told to pay & claim back all expenses on return!!! I think there was also a Flight Engineer that was promised the world by "The Govner"..

Rabbler 23rd Mar 2010 10:38

engine failure forced it to land in Manston..2002
 
Just caught up on this thread, as I was looking for information about the remaining TriStar fleet. This comment caught my attention.

'Duane Egli tried to convert ex LTU TriStar D-AERP in the same way. It sat on the ramp at Ostend forever, stripped of an interior. LWA Engineers tried to install some sort of bulkhead using H-beams from a local DIY-store, painted zinc-chromate green to give it an aviation appearance. It left somewhere in 2002 to be scrapped in Opa Locka, not before an engine failure forced it to land in Manston... I guess these "converted" pax aircraft just don't make it as decent freighters'.

It was not the freight 'conversion' that caused the engine failure, but leaving the aircraft parked in Ostend for a long time with little or no engine preservation procedures. This will always be a problem for A/C that are parked up (or abandoned) for a long time with no preservation of the engines.

J31 MAN 24th Mar 2010 09:58

http://www.thefinancialexpress-bd.co...?news_id=95853

JACDEC - Current News


Engine fire on a Bangladeshi freighter.

Markus1011 12th Dec 2015 22:52

http://www.ch-aviation.com/portal/news/42360-jordans-barq-aviation-takes-redelivery-of-tristars

Seems like Mr. Mughrabi is back in buisness ...

CS-TMX 13th Dec 2015 15:46


Barq Aviation (BUR, Amman Queen Alia) has taken redelivery of its trio of Lockheed Tristars following their return from South America where they were supposed to operate for Transportes Generales Aéreos (Lima Int'l) in Peru.
Does anyone confirm these aircraft were really in South America? I thought they stayed all the time in RKT.

Markus1011 13th Dec 2015 22:06


Originally Posted by CS-TMX (Post 9209376)
Does anyone confirm these aircraft were really in South America? I thought they stayed all the time in RKT.

These aircraft haven´t been in Peru. They have been all the time in RKT. They just have been re-registered in Peru. As far as I know, the peruvian Reg´s have been OB-2049-P and OB-2061-P.


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