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Earl 4th Jan 2008 04:10

The Thaisky one is the -1 Freighter 522 engines.
Skyeyes is the -200 524 engines.
I did ask these Egyptians ground engineers about this engine A/D on the three -100's
They stated that it had been complied with through some kind of alternate means of compliance.
This Egli guy was supposed to be preparing the -1 freighter for a DHL contract flying into Iraq, but Sabir claims he bought the aircraft.
Was getting to be like a soap opera there.
Things may have changed in the last few weeks in BKK but have my doubts.

AAL 4th Jan 2008 05:45

All the Thaisky L1011's were grounded because they dont comply with AD's. Egli did go and look at the -1 but only a miracle and lots of money will make it fly again.

There is an international travel ban on Egli for his escapades in Liberia and Sierra Leone, dont know how he manages to move around so freely(Dont shoot me - only the messenger) so also dont know or understand that DHL will do business with him.

Believe that some of the Thaisky crew are now busy flying the Hajj for Mr Muhgrabi, on a US N registered (ferry-flight) aicraft.

GotTheTshirt 4th Jan 2008 13:38

AAL / Earl

Any idea where the Thai registered -200 freighter is now ?

It was originally leased to Sunny by the Belgian company but grabbed in FUJ.
Last I heard it was sitting there but I guess it may have ended up back in Bangkok. This aircraft had the AD done on the engines:)

Funny enough there is an alternate means to comply with the engine AD but only on the 524 ! not 22B.

The other -200F ( that started this thread !) is still in Greece:}

CS-TMX 4th Jan 2008 15:47

It seems that Elsaker's XT-BRK is grounded at Jeddah? Saw N194AT active again.

411A 4th Jan 2008 18:03


It seems that Elsaker's XT-BRK is grounded at Jeddah?
Yes, but due to a 'misunderstanding' about landing without the necessary permit.
Fine already paid, so I'm told.

Earl 5th Jan 2008 03:00

Quote AAL:
Believe that some of the Thaisky crew are now busy flying the Hajj for Mr Muhgrabi, on a US N registered (ferry-flight) aircraft.

Earl: Most are ex ATA and flew this aircraft before and know the history and the reason ATA parked it.

GotTheTshirt Quote:
Any idea where the Thai registered -200 freighter is now ?

Earl:
As of December 12th 2007 it was in BKK, probably is till there.
They tried to do a RVSM certification flight with the Thai DCA on board.
Aircraft would not pressurize, neither autopilots would engage so the flight returned to BKK.
Also the number R5 spoiler would intermittently pop up full every time flaps 4 was selected.
Crew walked off due to payment issues after this, so whats going on now is anyones guess.
Egyptian ground engineers at there finest hour!
But then again, you get what you pay for!

GotTheTshirt 5th Jan 2008 17:20

TMX

Is N194AT still flying with US reg?:confused:

According to the airline website it now has a Nigerian reg :hmm:

PH-SCP 5th Jan 2008 18:44

According to the FAA website it's still current on the US register:

http://registry.faa.gov/aircraftinqu...umbertxt=194AT

CS-TMX 5th Jan 2008 18:49

The last time I saw it (4th January 2008) it only had the N-number.

Here is a picture taken last 1th January:

http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/4999/img1517tm5.jpg

411A 7th Jan 2008 08:58

Yep, still the same, saw it yesterday parked next to my aircraft on apron 6 receiving pax onboard...N194AT.

OldCessna 7th Jan 2008 17:41

Quote: 411A

Yep, still the same, saw it yesterday parked next to my aircraft on apron 6 receiving pax onboard...N194AT.

Hey 411 does that mean you have your aircraft up & running now?

Whats the status?

CS-TMX 7th Jan 2008 20:10

Yesterday I saw Privelege's L-1011 (msn 293B-1242) with reg TL-ADW at JED. XT-BRK seems to be stopped always at same stand.

http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/233/img1532pw4.jpg

Earl 28th Jan 2008 22:08

N194AT seen today parked in Lahore Pakistan (LHE).
Guess he is taking his corruption to the Pakistanis now.
Hope is not doing the UN flights.

411A 29th Jan 2008 08:06


Hope is not doing the UN flights.
Word on the street is that is what is proposed...

GotTheTshirt 30th Jan 2008 07:37

I wonder which Part of the FAR's is N194 operating for hire and reward:}

Also which FAA regional office hold their certificates:ugh:

fergineer 30th Jan 2008 21:02

Will it ever end......hopefully not in tears......Someone somewhere must be able to give the appropriate authorities the information that is required to get this fool off the streets......There are people that see this aircrafty in their travels.....do something about it before it does it to you.

411A 1st Feb 2008 11:51


I wonder which Part of the FAR's is N194 operating for hire and reward
Also which FAA regional office hold their certificates
No FAA AOC... the aircraft is leased to a foreign air carrier, with the lease tailored to comply with 14CFR91 and 14CFR125, common with some business jets.
A loop-hole?
Yes, I expect so.
Also, I was told that the aeroplane is in remarkably good condition, and proved quite reliable during Hajj flying.

Dunno for sure, however.

Earl 2nd Feb 2008 02:58

Loop hole.
We will see.

GotTheTshirt 2nd Feb 2008 07:53

411,

[COLOR="Red"]By [/COLOR]Also, I was told that the aeroplane is in remarkably good condition,

[COLOR="Black"]I assume, by this you mean the paint job was sparkling !

Both 91 and 125 require the aircraft be Maintained by a program approved by the Administator although 91 allows a program approved by the manufacturer which in the case of Lockheed is C check every 13 months not to exceed 15 months, plus both 91 and 125 require the aircraft and engines to comply with TCDS including all requirements of 14 CFR39 [COLOR="red"](AD,s)[/COLOR]

411A 2nd Feb 2008 14:23

Well yes, it did look rather spiffy, from afar.:}




Both 91 and 125 require the aircraft be Maintained by a program approved by the Administator although 91 allows a program approved by the manufacturer which in the case of Lockheed is C check every 13 months not to exceed 15 months, plus both 91 and 125 require the aircraft and engines to comply with TCDS including all requirements of 14 CFR39
And, how do you know it does not?
Much speculation here it appears, by folks clearly not in the know.
I was told that the aeroplane in question is on a 4200 hours/no calendar limit inspection program, and indeed this has been approved for others, including the one I am flying now.
Indeed, a waiver might well have been obtained for the engine shaft-axial motion AD, among others....stranger things have happened.
Why not travel to the aeroplanes present location, and find out for yourself, if interested...then you would know for sure, maybe.:hmm:


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