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AAL 28th Oct 2007 14:04

AvgasDinosaur, perhaps the lesson herein is that we need a sticky permanent thread dedicated to spotting, discussing and learning more about one of the most magnificent aircraft ever built, their colorful history, some of those equaly colourful personalities behind them, and some of the colourful activities they have been involved in.

You are right, any new selfrespecting cargo outfit planning to fly out of Cyprus cant do so overnight!

Please bear with us Mr Mod, we will get there.:)

CR2 28th Oct 2007 23:41

I'm also following with interest. Not because I'm 1011 crazy (lousy -F in my biased 747 is best opinion ;) ) but because all should learn/beware of what happened to some of the contributors to this thread (2B2S, Earl..)

Having followed this forum for around 10 years now (CR2 is my 2nd handle), I can say that this isn't the first time. 411A (amongst some others) has, over the years, advised caution with such "deals". I will say, that what he wrote here some weeks ago, was prophetic. Use the advanced search function...

AAL: Moderating is a fingertip feeling thingy. No hard and fast rules in terms of what is/isn't relevant. EG: Flight Engineer. They for all intents and purposes don't exist anymore - except on an older -Fs. So, Terms & Endearment or Freight Dogs?

Techman 29th Oct 2007 00:10


Originally Posted by CR2
...Flight Engineer. They for all intents and purposes don't exist anymore...

Thank you for that. I shall inform all of my colleagues that they don't exist.

It is always good to be told how things really are by people who don't know.:rolleyes:

fergineer 29th Oct 2007 00:35

CR2 wash your mouth out with soap or the FE Mafiosa will be out looking for you....We still exist on all the classic 747 fr8ers, the L1011 DC10 DC8'sand others hidden by such wonderful Russian names so its certainly here in fr8 dogs thank you.

CR2 29th Oct 2007 12:05

Guys, you know exactly what I mean. :)

OldCessna 29th Oct 2007 15:25

N194AT "Omar Wings" etc
 
Aircraft was moved from Amman down to Aqaba!
Aqaba - King Hussein Intīl Airport (AQJ/OJAQ)

Eagle45 29th Oct 2007 18:19

Victorville - Maintenance photos
 
Among others, N163AT & EX(?)102
http://www.staffhirecarib.com/default.asp?id=39

Earl 30th Oct 2007 03:59

Actually the aircraft was flown from Kano to AQJ a few weeks ago, reason given was there was no room for parking in Amman.
The crew bused back to Amman.
The number given on the web for this Omar wings is +96265679047.
Which is a different number than what Orange air was using.
Still think since they are advertising for FAA crews that this may be connected to them some how.

Earl 2nd Nov 2007 17:32

Globejet: Another Good Tristar Company gone
 
Crews were sent mails today that the Lebanese CAA has pulled the rights to operate for Globejet Airlines located in Beruit Lebanon.
The three remaining aircraft -500's in the process of being sold as we speak.
All the crews have been offered positions with the new owners and company.
This is some bad news for Tristar crews as Globejet was known for paying the crews and also treating each and ever one of us like family.
Even after suffering a 4 million USD loss in South America flying for LAB they still payed the crews.
What is really amazing about this part of the world is that Globejet followed the rules, paid the crews and is faced with this problem by the Lebanese CAA.
But then again you rarely ever find honesty in the middle east, since the westerners handed control of the CAA to the locals all is corrupt there as in most middle eastern operations.
There aircraft were in much better shape and maintained than this last ferry I did to Amman with another company.
Which claims a Lebanese AOC.
Most of us have other jobs now as the market is really strong for 747 and some L-1011 crews.
Really a bad thing when we see a good honest company go down like this.
Many thanks to Globejet as this company will truly be missed.

fergineer 2nd Nov 2007 22:36

Sorry to hear that Globejet have now gone.....as you say that does not leave many good companies left in the market place for L1011 crews. Dunno how Luzair are going in Portugal, they took over the 2 Air Luxor aircraft doing ad hoc charter but they were only using Portuguese crews and the pay was in a downward spiral......Good luck to those still looking for work on the L1011

TheChitterneFlyer 3rd Nov 2007 18:49

Fergineer you old salt... what are you doing in NZ??? I did my lot with the two-sixteen lot, then BA, then KT, then onto Classics with BA and KA. Now back at Boscombe but shortly going to Qatar on a ground job with Steve P. Hope you're well mate...

JB

Mr Grim reaper 10th Nov 2007 10:58

L1011 for sale
 
Hi there are 3 tristars that have been converted in victorville USA. Contact a company called SCA they may know who owns them

OldCessna 11th Nov 2007 14:53

L1011 Freighters
 
They are owned by the "Belgian" they are just parked at VCV

The "Belgian" collects them as memorabilia!

The AvgasDinosaur 11th Nov 2007 15:38

As far as I can ascertain there are 3 genuine (i.e. STC) -200 Freighter conversions at Victorville c/n 1182, 1193 and 1211 all ex Connie Kallita and British Airways. N number enquiries reveal Wells Fargo Bank of Salt Lake City Utah as the owners.
Hope it helps
Be lucky
David
P.S. Just as a curious enquiry what is a full STC -200F worth these days? Anyone any idea, please

411A 13th Nov 2007 05:01


As far as I can ascertain there are 3 genuine (i.e. STC) -200 Freighter conversions at Victorville c/n 1182, 1193 and 1211 all ex Connie Kallita and British Airways. N number enquiries reveal Wells Fargo Bank of Salt Lake City Utah as the owners.

Equipment trust, for the non US owner...Lanta Aviation/Trilan One Corp, Monaco.
Just as a curious enquiry what is a full STC -200F worth these days? Anyone any idea, please

Very little...Lanta/Trilan took a bath with their purchase. Only one in service now, or rather, about to be in service.

Serves the CEO right, the silly fool.

MersonFreekicks 16th Nov 2007 15:06

Tristar in Kavala
 
Sorry if this one has already been mentioned, I tried to follow the thread from the begining but got lost...:ugh:

http://www.eucomairlines.de/prodlist/msn198.html

Cheers

T J Johansen 1st Dec 2007 02:39


Curiously about Duane A. Egli. He is still shown as the registered owner of N3710G the A-26 that crashed at Biggen Hill 21st September 1980 killing Don Bullock and six others, didn't know about his warbird connection. I have never found a report on this no trace US NTSB no trace UK AAIB. Really odd considering the changes to display rules that followed from it I.E. Crew only on board (Sorry if this is a bit too far off topic. I will delete it if requested to do so.)
Be lucky
David
Egli used to be involved with the Confederate Air Force back in the old days. He did rebuild P-51 Mustang wings from scratch, ferried a DH Mosquito from the UK to the US in 1971 (and an Anson I understand), and in 1972 recovered a Hurricane from swamp waters near Gander, Canada. He was also instrumental in getting the CAF their B-29. Add to that the fact that he was the late John Hawke's co- pilot on the B-25 camera ship for the movie "Battle of Britain". As for the A-26, I haven't found out the exact story of ownership. Could be that he was just the "registred owner" in order to maintain N# on the a/c.

T J

PH-SCP 4th Dec 2007 15:43

Two of the former GlobeJet TriStar's found a new home. Credits go to Skyliner....

http://img164.imageshack.us/img164/7065/01xtbrkwn8.jpg

SWBKCB 4th Dec 2007 17:03

From the Skyliner website -

"Kallat Elsaker Air has taken over already two Lockheed TriStar 500 of Libanese GlobeJet which recently decided to finish its business"

Two Tristars with XT- regs pictured at Burkina Faso Ouagadougou (OUA) on 03.12.07 - presumably Hajj-ing??

Eagle45 4th Dec 2007 22:07

Link to photo
http://www.skyliner-aviation.de/view...av2&picid=4265


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