I fully agree, SC. Though in the meantime, let´s not fall prey to the trap of dividing ourselves in terms of "us" and "the Americans" or similar.

As far as I´m concerned, we´re all colleagues, with DM being one of us! :ok:

Okay thank you, you have a very valid point, I'll edit my post!

@stupid copilot....why don't you let your voice be heard on the ALPL forum....or even better join the board at the next general assembly. PPrune is hardly the best place to voice your concerns.

Best regards


Hawkeye red

Again you're right Hawkeye! I won't post here any more and I've edited/removed some other posts.

SC out/

what !!! black smoke still coming out of the lorang building ?

News on Qatargolux :)



Qatar Airways takes 35 percent of Cargolux



09/06/2011 2:44 pm

http://www.aircargoworld.com/var/eng...olux_large.jpg Qatar Airways has purchased a stake in Cargolux


After months of speculation, Qatar Airways has reached an agreement with Cargolux to acquire a 35-percent stake in the Luxembourg-based carrier for an undisclosed amount.

The deal will help Qatar expand its freighter operations into the European market. Qatar currently owns five freighters and has placed an order for four Boeing 777Fs. In addition, the carrier is exploring the possibility of converting A330s to cargo planes. Compared to Qatar's holdings, Cargolux has a massive freighter fleet; it currently operates 16 Boeing 747Fs and has ordered 13 Boeing 747-8 freighters, making it the launch customer of the new craft.
“The agreement signed today is the first major step by Qatar Airways towards substantially expanding the cargo side of its operations, a great opportunity to capitalise on a rapid growth business," said Qatar's CEO Akbar Al Baker after signing the agreement with Cargolux's CEO Frank Reimen. "We seek to fuel our growth plans by further developing our air freight business as a major part of our overall product offering and develop Qatar as a leading global cargo hub and one of the major players in the international freight market by 2015."
Baker added that Qatar and Cargolux will experience more growth next year when an international airport opens in Doha. The goal, he said, is to make that new airport a cargo hub.
After the signing, Reimen said the deal is the start of a symbiotic relationship.
“We have identified numerous synergies owing to the complementary nature of our businesses that will enable us to develop scale and reach and strengthen our respective hubs in Luxembourg and Doha," he said in a statement. "The implementation of the cooperation plan will be a driver of high customer satisfaction, enhance our competitiveness through improved returns and benefit the Luxembourg economy overall through extra trucking and handling tonnage, and the creation of new jobs.”
Cargolux has entertained offers before. In 2005, Etihad Airways unsuccessfully tried to buy 33.5 percent of the carrier for $130 million.
Reports of an impending deal have been trickling in for the past few months, and as Avianform's Dirk Steiger told Air Cargo World last month, the rumor mill isn't done yet. He expects to see Qatar up its stake to 49 percent.
"It is obvious that they will want to increase their stake to ensure they have the maximum control over their investment and the future growth of the joint venture," he said.

Does anyone have any ideas what this means in regards to the recruitment status in the future, latest info being status quo until maybe early next year

Starting date :
 

Hello there,

I was wondering if anyone has some info about the futur starting date(s)?
I'm actualy in the waiting pool to start in cargolux and I have to admit I'm very exited about it :-)

Have ( all ) a nice flight :ok:

cargolux
 

Hi anyone can give me some information about working condition at cargolux?
Roster,salary,ecc any info is appreciated.

Many thanks in advance

If u couldn't find that Info on the previous 28 pages u probably just failed the Basic entry Test.

cargolux
 

Don't warry i've read it ,but many post like the first one are little bit old ,maybe nothing is changed?
Any italian pilots there?

roster/schedule questions
 

Hi, I'm interested in learning more about Cargolux.

1)How early do you receive the roster for the following month?
2)Do you bid for a roster or are you assigned one?

Appreciate your feedback

cargolux
 

Hi chzech d have you already done the selection process for cargolux?

Not yet, just started application now. It appears this company would be a good fit for me.

pay and schedule
 

Freddi16, I'm sitting here in Shanghai on a layover.

It appears they change the schedule multiple times in the month, something I'm used to with the Chines but can be frustrating if you are not used to being a pawn on the chess table. I fly out of Lux on a contract job for a Chinese carrier. With all its faults, Cargolux is a dream job compared to the contract flying world in my opinion. We just did 26 hours of duty and the Chinese say it's o.k. because we went to the hotel for 4 hours while they fixed the TCAS so they minused the 4 hours from 26 duty and made it 22 hours which is the CAAC max with 4 man crew.

It would seem to me that living in Luxembourg or Italy for the Italian job, would be the ideal way but of course everyone is in a different situation.

We check in with Cargolux ops and they are always courteous, and seem to be organized, nothing fancy, but good. If you're happy with long haul flying it is an excellent place to be. Good luck

max age and EU passport
 

What an experience reading all of the posts. Auststralian71 got is @#$% kidded by "nose door" that was a great read, I couldn't stop laughing :D No job is perfect, we just try to improve what we have.

Anyway, if Ray Cosmic, Flighwatch or any of the more senior guys could tell me if 39yrs old is going to disqualify me to be a new hire? I read the post with the guy who had just turned 40 and didn't make it, but I'm not sure if the reason was because of his age or something else.

I was thinking to stop by and talk to your Chief Pilot the next time I'm in Luxembourg (I fly with Yangtze River out of Lux) I think I would be happy with CV and I know my family and I are wanting to move to Luxembourg, whether I get a job with CV or not but if I'm absolutely not getting an interview because of my age, well, I'd rather know now than to get my dream crushed later. Also, if I show the legal right to live and work in Luxembourg would that count? or is the EU passport a must? The profile on the web site just says legal right to live and work so it's seems that I would be fine, but there was a previous post where someone said you had to have the passport. Thanks again for any info you have.

czechairman
 

I have been retired 6 months now so am in no position to tell you any valid gen. As you say things change frequently at CV so who knows? The current guys may be able to help but a visit to the CP when you are next in LUX sounds like a good idea.

Good luck.

EU passport and age requirement
 

Thanks Flightwatch.

I found some of the answers myself actually. I just got off the phone with Martin Wallenbon in recruitment. She says that as long as you have the right to live and work in Luxembourg you don't have to have an EU passport in hand so I was relieved to hear that. Just to make it clear. I am married to a women who holds an EU passport and with this, I am able to get the unrestricted right to work and live in Luxembourg which at this point in time satisfies CV. For any of you interested in this, your wife has to get the job first, then you can get the right. Also, you have to live with your wife :eek: they're so picky....just kidding.

With regards, to age, Interpersonel should not disqualify someone because of age since there is no official age limit. Once it goes to the Chief Pilot, the final decision is made and your age then may be a factor. They are mainly concerned that you won't be with the company long enough to upgrade and therefore be discouraged. This is what recruitment has just told me. I just got off the phone literally 5 minutes ago with them.

Well, the grass is always greener from the other side, but this grass looks really really green to me :O

I find Luxembourg to be a wonderful place to live. Low crime rate beautiful courntryside, low taxes. I just attended a concert at the Circle Cite building at the main square. Such a gorgeous building. I suppose everyone has their own tastes but I find Luxembourg to be the idea European country. Yes the homes are expensive, but drive twenty minutes from Luxembourg City and the prices really drop quick. Well enough said. I appreciate any comments and hope someday to join.

Cargolux
 

Chzech check your pm

Hello there, I am one of the so many on the pending list at interpersonal, with an accepted application with no further progress. I am on my way to Lux next monday to say hello and hand out a copy of my CV. I have a few friends flying for CV, and they have encouraged me to do so. Has anyone had a bad experience by doing so, feeling that they are intruding by showing up? I have tried to call and asked to speak to the managers, but have been told that they are not accepting any direct calls. Any feedback would be greatly appreciated, I am travelling a long way, leaving home on sunday, and want to make sure that I am doing the right thing... :)

regards

1975

Cargolux
 

1975 check your pm

Hey guys,

I applied with Cargolux like 2 months ago through the interpersonal website. But still haven't heared a word from them since.
Just the initial autoreply that they will get back to me.

I was wondering if this is normal or perhaps I should give them a call ??

thanx for your input in advance.

Kind regards
Dutch250.

Visiting the CP? Why?
There are procedures via Interpersonal/Career.aero and these are not there for nothing.
2 months wait is nothing. Because the interest in Cargolux is so overwhelming you just have to wait for your reply. It doesnt hurt to contact Interpersonal though, but it doesnt work in your favour to just drive by and bash into the office.
It's not your right to work for CV, thats for them to decide.
Don't be stupid and stick to the rules and procedures. Nobody is that special.

Word is on the street that they're waiting for the LG situation to sort itself out (including CV taking any excess crew) before they start handing out invites to any outsiders.

I think there will be ample opportunity for selection considering that they are about to expand drastically.

What is the LG situation, Luxair? What are the big expansion plans?

Thanks for the info, any ideas on how many new pilots that equals to per aircraft?

We used to have 16 aircraft staffed by around 400 pilots.
Currently less aircraft, but more crew. I suppose the real expansion could begin after delivery of the 3rd -8 if the decision is being taken to not replace the -400s.. Then my guess is around 25-30 pilots per aircraft..

Lets hope for the best, maybe the next thing is Cargolux Qatar... :)

If using Cargolux Italia as a reference for the future, then perhaps you should not hope for a Cargolux Qatar. :ugh:

True, let's see what happens:)

First aircraft will be arriving soon...

Boeing 747-8F Wins FAA, European Certification | AVIATION WEEK

Hey Czech Buddy,

ND here, been away for a bit, however, my advice.... Go to the gulf... Emirates or Ethihad, Why, well you'll get a command there a lot quicker!! whilst life here in the Banking jungle is good we have a lot of issue's to be resolved.... command 10 yrs plus, so if your happy to be in the RHS for the rest of your life , go ahead join, but i have a lot of friends who are in the gulf, and things there really are about the same as europe... except the heat! And with a family, you'll have a villa/ condo etc all paid for!! Not to forget the 5pm maid service ;-) But if you really want to live in europe, then whey hey, we get shiney new a/c in a few days!! Old Aust77 will be coming in his pants over that one, that's if he still can fly, maybe as we type, he is in a shagged out 'ol 741 bitching on about his shiney CJ7 of such!! but as we know, soon after his post's NJE had serious troubles (thanks to the bucking fankers who created a whole load of **** for all of us and seem to have walked away from it, claiming that they were hard done by!!! A#$holes!) and he might well be flying a freifghter for CLX, hope chuffing not!
So, good luck, I like PVG, but only for a few beers or more in Bar Rouge or wednesdays in Zappatta's!!

Good luck!

ND.

Hi Nose Door and others,

Well, thats one point of view.

I can tell you that Cargolux is my 6th company to work for, and every other company I have worked for has had its own "issues" to sort out.

There is no company on the planet, that is perfect, but I think that in the great scheme of things, we are actually very well off here at Cargolux.

The "sandpit", just like Cargolux, is a lifestyle choice as I have mentioned in previous posts.

I too have plenty of ex-collegues and friends down there, and from what I have seen visiting them and what they tell me, its most certainly not for me.
Thats purely a personal choice thou.
Maybe I appreciate where I have come from and where I am now.

Pilots are very quick to bitch and moan about anything, but when you start countering the arguments, suddenly everyone changes their tune from "this company is ****..." to "yes, off course its not that bad..."

Like Nose Door said, the near future will be very interesting at Cargolux, as a lot of new aircraft will be arriving in a short space of time.

I am grateful for my job here, and I am optimistic about the future too.

There is always room for improvement in any aspect of life.

As for the time to command, I am in no rush to get there, as I am happy working here.
And none knows what will happen in the future.
Maybe things will move quicker, maybe not.

Please don't get me wrong Nose Door, I am not saying that your point of view is wrong, I just wanted to put up a different point of view :ok:

Another day less until the -8 arrives…
First of all, thanks everybody to give all the great information to almost every question a newbie could have.
After reading all 44 pages from #1 and considering if the job suits me for 2 years, I feel like participating in the forum and start queuing for the job…
Just applied with a JAR ATPL / 4000 TT / LR experience @ the age of 29 years.

So far no news as career.aero states that there might be no selection until end of 2011.
Looking forward to read more interesting posts and hopefully be part of the team one day,

Cheers,
N1toGo

recruitment homepage
 

anybody knows whats wrong with the recruitment homepage.
Trying to log on to update my application but ends up at a blank page.

Is in not supporting MAC maybe?

Cargolux Italia
 

Anybody can tell if the roumor is true, that Cargolux F/O´s are asked to go to Cargolux Italia to get their upgrade ?

If yes...is that the only way to get the upgrade or is the standard waiting time (10-14 years approx. )still an option and Cargolux Italia just an accelarated upgrade for worse conditions ?

Would be a tough fact after working so long for an upgrade in SA...

Any ideas or even better facts are appreciated.


regards,

N1toGo

is the type rating subject to any bond?
Merci.

Thanks to all cargolux pilots for all the information provided. Can any of you answer a few more questions?
Can the pilot choose to get 9 days off all in a row every month? or is it the company to choose if you get 9 in a row or 6+3?
Now that the 800 issue is solved there will be expansion and hopefully pilots recruitment will start again?
How is the general feeling in the company about the new shareholder: things are going to improve or get worse for employees?
thanks and rgrds

Answers to the last questions
 

It is true that all Cargolux F/O´s have been asked to apply for Cargolux Italia as DEC. The contract would have been for 5 years. After this 5 years you would have rejoined Cargolux in Luxembourg without loosing any seniority. If you would have been captain by then you would have stayed captain, otherwise you would have found yourself back on the right seat. In total 2 F/O have been desperate enough to apply. In the end none signed the contract. I guess you can imagine why.

I think there was a bond linked to my type rating, but not more than 1 or 2 years. By the way, hardly ever someone resigned and with exception of the guys that went to Air France, most of the ones that did, tried to come back after realizing their mistake.

The 9 days off mentioned are in fact 10 days off, as there have to be 24 hours of rest time starting at midnight local time before the beginning of the first off-day (blank day). Crew Planning prefers to give the 10 days in one block as they save one one rest day. Otherwise it would be 7 days off in one block + an other 4 days off in one block. You can place 3 requests for each upcoming roster. Trips as well as off-days. All is by straight seniority. Thus you can ask to have your off days in one block or in two. Most guys link some of their 42 vacation days to their off days if taken in one block. The amount of off-days per roster is not reduced if you take vacation days on top. There are 13 rosters of 28 days per year.

About Qatar as shareholder. Ask 10 of our pilots and you will get 10 totally different opinions.

About the recruiting page. Call Interpersonal or send them an email to explain your technical problems. This is what I did some years ago. They should be able to help you.

By the way, I back Pow-wow in his opinion of the company. You will do hard to find better a company with better working conditions, especially in europe.
In all the years I can not remember that any one complaint about his salary.

thank you so much for your answer emer desc
I've read the whole topic and I understand that the 6 off block is untouchable but the 3 daysoff can be moved if they need you, what happens if you get just one block of 9 days off? Are all 9 days unmovable or 3 of them you can get a duty if they need?
I also read that the average nights out pr month is 15 which means that during the 18 days of duty you also return a few times to base right?
It would be very nice to see a junior first officer roster (without details so it's anonimous) to have an idea of how life would be during the first years.
Let's hope all the 400 will be kept so they start hiring again very soon. tnx.

bye