Yes, I Know one guy with a date in January `09, why do you ask CTS?

Living in France
 

hi, could anybody give me an idea how realistic it is to live in France as I know there are a few froggies flying for CV, and also question about tax, what's the deal there? please pm me if possible. thanks.

is it true that time to upgrade for new joiners would be about 15 years at current rate ???

Regarding the T&Cs´in Cargolux.

What kind of medical cover does the company provide you (and your family) with? (full care including dental care etc).
School?
Any freebies ie. company phone/internet etc.

Very interesting thread.

POL

TR in January
 

...someone else starting TR 19.01.2009 ?

Did anyone get a starting date in February or March?

they told around march but do not know exactly yet because of
the delay of the 47-8f.
did you get a fix date to start?

Yes!!! :ok:

I would be most interested in having a glance at a typical schedule for a cargolux fo. I am considering what my chances would be to join in the future and would be grateful if someone could enlighten me as to what to expect!
Feel free to PM me, and (of course) to remove any indications as to whom belongs the actual schedule!

Thank you very much!

jtanne, check your pm!

starting date course Feb/March
 

I have been told this week that nobody should expect to start in Feb for sure, March unlikely as well, more likely May at the earliest due to global economic situation and later arrival of 747-800s. So Jtanne, you replied yes but surely that cant be in reply to Feb/March starting date??
thanks

CTS: what happened to

"Well, it´s safe to say that we´re still desparately short of crews at the moment. The sooner the newhires start, the better it is.."

(that was in october)?
all due to the fincancial crisis?

cts, although you are mostly helpful and correct, i noted some other data.
No CV acft to be parked, courses only in jan and feb and pre command training only to have 'em ready when needed for upgrade.
cheers!

Hello Cargolux pilots,

Little advice sought. Right to live and work in EU ( British national ) currently flying for a US cargo company in the -400 that, shockingly, is going to furlough me...... 5000TT, 250 on the -400, 2700PIC and +1000 Turbine PIC. Going down the conversion road presently. Would there be any benefit of calling your recruiters and pleading my case in my best A level German ( not Luxemburgisch mind you ), just to let them know I'm very interested and should be all converted within 4 months.

With a furlough looming I don't know whether to rock the boat or keep quiet and miss it? (Hint, our airplanes look like flying Chinese restaurants and we aren't well liked in EBBR....)

Thanks chaps.

Hey Guys,

does anyone know if Cargolux has put a hold on recruitment? I had an interview scheduled earlier this month, but it got postponed due to crewing reasons untill further notice. I haven't heard anything for 4 weeks now and was wondering if the current economic climate could have anything to do with it. In the coming weeks I will have to sign some new contracts with my current employer, so all information is highly appreciated....

and not to forget; merry christmas, hohoho!

At the earliest you would be in a course at the end of next year, if not, even 2010.

Latest - six guys starting in January then no further recruitment for the year envisaged, no further upgrades in 2009

Thanks for the info guys. It seems that I've just missed the boat. A bit of a disapointment, but at least I have an idea of where I stand.
To all of you who are starting your courses; good luck and enjoy your new adventure:).

All the best for 2009!

Flying_Saucepan

Good day,

Does anybody have any info regarding recruitment for Cargolux for 2009. As mentioned on another thread here at Pprune, they are launching Cargolux Italia. Is that expected to have any influence on the situation?

Also it would seem strange that if hiring has come to a complete stop, why Interpersonal keep running the ad on it´s webpage.

While we are on the subject, IATA has published a big plunge in cargo transport on a global basis, does anybody know how Cargolux is coping in todays market.

Rgds-
Bluebird

Having good payloads is one thing ... but at what price? At costprice?

About the hiring:
I hear ALL kinds of things:
-NO hiring for 2009
-10 F/O's more needed
-40 F/O's more needed

Q*R*H,

Look at page 22 of this thread, I made a description of what to expect on the day in Saarlouis.

Good luck,
Bae.

All the best of luck for those invited to Saarlouis!

Again it seems strange that with at least a few people in the holding pool, and information given by Cargolux in January, that they will not hire any new pilots in 2009 that they are still accepting people for assessments.

Let us hope that hiring will again start in the near future, for those waiting in line.

Does no one have any info on Cargolux these days. Are they continuing to invite people for assessments in Saarlouis?

Any speculations on how long the people already in the holding-pool will have to wait for a shot at the right seat of a 744?


Rgds

i heard a rumour that cv will hire some 50 f/o in 2010...
so holding pool time could be easily one year.

i suppose it will be "in".

Hi guys I went to Saarlouis recently for Cargolux;

Here are some informations for you about how it happen overthere :

1st medical examination:
eyes : -long and short distance
-3 dimensions picture (you must see an elephant and star)
- colors (you must see some numbers)
hears, heart, blood and pee sample.
breathing capacity
general examination by doctor.

2nd, you'll spend the rest of the day in front of a computer :

1) you have 4 geometrical figures, and a fith one with is changing all the time (about every sec), when it corresponds to one of the four, you have to press a key. Quite difficult because sometimes only one detail differs.

2)the screen is divided in two, on both sides you have some lines of number or letters combinations or geometrical simple shapes.
On the left line side some itmes are crossed; you have to cross the items wich are identical on the right side, easy but you must do it fast.

3)You have some picture of streets with some traffic (little bit like the one I used to see during my driving licence examination :) )
This pictures are just a glimpse , it just stays a fraction of second on the screen then you if to click on the following boxes if you have see that in the picture :
pedestrian
traffic light
road sign
car
bike
moto

4)For this exercice, you must use
Stick
2 pedals

on the screen you have a triangle wich stands on his top

you must maintain the triangle straight on his top by using the stick (if it rotates towards its right, move the stick to the left to correct).

This triangle must stand on a cross but it is unstable, it moves right/left and front/back from that cross.
Press the right pedal to move it towards you
Press the left pedal to move it right
in order to keep it on the cross.

You have to use both pedals and stick together, this is a coordination exercise.

5) other coordination exercise :
you must use the keyboard wich has some round colors buttons
red, blue, white, yellow, green.
they are also two square buttons in the middle (grey and black), the grey button is above the black one.
you must also use the pedals.

When you see a red round on the screen, you press the red button
(like this for all the colours buttons)
When you ear a high sound, you press the grey button
When you ear a low sound, you press the black button
Wen you have a grey round on the left side of the screen, press the left pedal
When you have a grey round on the right side of the screen, press the right pedal.

It all go fast and you must be quick,

6) you have a kind of city map in front of you with some symbols, it stays on the screen maybe 3 seconds, you have to memorise the location, the map appear again and you must locate the symbols wich are asked to you.
There can be up to seven symbol on the chart, you can cheat by using your fingers on the screen if there are no too many of write them down quickly on a paper, or use a erasable pen on the screen :)


7) this is an endurance test (important for long haul like cargolux), you have a white dot moving every second on a black screen, it moves around like a clock, but sometimes maybe 10 times on the 30 min test duration, it moves by 2 centimeters instead of the usual 1 centimeter, so you must press a key when it's the case, easy but boring and tiring. Trick, follow the dot with your finger to well notice the skip

8) It's like a classical IQ test you have 5 figures on the screen and you must chose the sixth one among a choice of 4 corresponding to the logical sequence.

9)Orientation test, you have a plane picture with an heading given, then an other picture with that plane, you must chose wich axis and wich direction were used to move the aircraft, sometimes different solutions, but use always the shorter way,
3 axis :
vertical
longitudinal
pitch

and also chose clockwise / anticlockwise

10) You have 4 easy shapes on the screen, and one shape corresponding to one of the 4 hereabove appear, you must click on the corresponding one,
very easy, the next shape appears once you have clicked, but you must be as fast and precise as you can.

11) It is like the exercise 2)
but sometimes the computer ask you questions and you must first answer the questions and then continue on your task as exercise 2)
The questions sometime refer to an agenda wich you must open by clicking on it or to a phonebook, you have all the answer choice in the bottom of the screen or this kind of question :

Martin is shorter than Jack wich is shorter than Alan, who is the tallest ?
Complete this logical serial : 2 4 6 8 ...
How much is 42 plus 26 divided per 2.....
When do you have to go to the swimming pool ..... (refer agenda)
Wich city lives Mr Smith...... (refer to adress book)

You have also a timer on the corner of the screen and some answers must be giver at a certain time, so write them down and don't forget to click on the answer at the giver time.


Also during the day you will have to answer to about 600 psycholigical questions, it’s to find how is your personality,
Different aspects of the personality will be analysed like

-Introvert / Extrovert
-Imaginative
-leadership
-stressed
-happy/sad
-active / lazy
….

Here are a few questions that appareared :

Do you think love is more important than work ?
Do you work more than other people ?
Do you always respect speed limits ?
Do you like to drive fast?
Are you afraid by spiders?
Do you like gladiator movies?
Have you ever cried during a movie?
Do you sometimes feel so stressed that you can’t sleep?
Do you like order?
Does disorder makes you feel angry?

I hope this will help you guys, I think that is very important to share vital information to everybody than keeping it for himself so other can benefit and can be better prepared,

Good luck guys

Cheers

:ok:

commuting
 

hey guys,
as some of you already mentioned that staff travel arrangements with other carriers are poor, does that mean that commuting is available only on cargolux aircraft or do you have agreements with other carriers providing ZED/ID/STBY tickets to Cargolux Pilots? If so can anyone please specify these carriers.

thanks in advance :ok:

does nobody know?

Sorry mad12 but I'm afraid your chances to get the job are slim if 49 is your real age...

hi LBR, don´t let my age trouble you :cool:.
do you have any information concerning staff travel arrangements with other carriers? advice is appreciated :ok:.

I have to back LBR, if 49 is your real age, you are too old.
The average age of the last peoples that joined is 28. Among the last 50 on the seniority list, the max. age is 37, average low thirtys.
You can travel free on all CV flights and ID tickets are avail. for Luxair. That´s it!
To answer Bluebirds question on speculation of how long colleagues joining now have to wait for an upgrade: If the fleet doesn´t grow, 25 to 30 years.
If we grow by 4 or 5 aircraft, 15 to 20 years,... and CLX was always very conservative with expansion.

thanks for this info

Hello everyone,

I am invited to LUX for final interview next week... So obviously there is some slow movement starting again?? Just heard, F/O's are working to the limits and are desperately waiting for some new people to join in order to relax rosters...??

I don't know how much Interpersonal really knows about things going on inside Cargolux, so I am hesitant to trust the news. Though, I will post some news when I am back from LUX and found out directly from the HR department how it looks like... I imagine there are quite a few guys in the same position that were happy to hear some real news.

Any suggestions for the final day?? Did quite a bit of research already, but everything's appreciated in order to calm down... :bored:

Best regards,
Helm737

Hi all,
Could anyone shed any light as to how long interpersonal take to process applications?
They do mention that they do receive many applications, but don't specify how long before you get a formal response . . .
Thanks in advance

Hi 5150,

I was talking to IP on the telephone uncountable times. It occurs that they don't have an influence on who and when people are invited. In all, the only thing IP seems to do for Cargolux is a "pre-screening" in form of a filtering of applications. They forward the ones who meet the requirement. Cargolux then decides about the rest.

To give you an idea, it took me 8 months to get invited for the first step. Then another 3 months for the final interview. Might take even longer these days, where hirings are postponed :uhoh: good luck!

Hi Helm737
 

The interview is straight forward, they just want to know a bit about you and what you know about CV (fleet, destinations etc.). Big point is if you are willing to move to LUX or close by. (I think it is 90km distance around the airport. If they get the feeling you won't, :(, chances are you won't get accepted.

Good luck!!

WOB

Hi WOB,

thanks for your help. That's close to what I've heard in the past.

It occurs to me they are much more persistent with the "living in Luxembourg" question. I got to talk to the recruitment manager in early January and he said, "they'd really keep an eye on that now, as people are suffering too much"... If you really want the job, the answer is obvious. Though, I am wondering if that's what everyone else was told before and still people decided to commute at some point??

Do people share flats nearby LUX airport that they use to stay just right before and after work trips??

Helm737,

check your pm!

Bae.

Thanks for the info Helm . . .
I won't hold my breath for a reply then! :rolleyes:

Hello Helm737,

I would say about 60% commute, it is possible, but everybody needs to find out which way he/she likes it. Most people have/share a place nearby, also France, Germany, Belgium is possible. Germany for the time being is the cheapest deal, and only 25min to the Airport in LUX. If you register to be living there, you don't count as a commuter, so I would say there are actually even more commuters.

But to tell the truth, life is a lot easier if you live here. Trier, Saarbruecken or Cologne are nice places to be, and you also have SIM, Groundschool etc. in between, where commuting becomes a hassle.

Anyway, in your off days you can do whatever you like, so as I said b4, everyone has to find his luck for himself.

Cheers, WOB