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Old 18th Feb 2020, 15:45
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Originally Posted by SkyHawk1985 View Post
Now the coronavirus outbreak indeed affected the pax flying but cargo companies like Cargolux just released a couple of days ago strong China cargo market.
https://delano.lu/d/detail/news/coro...flights/209476
No, Cargolux did not release "a couple of days ago strong China cargo market."

Read the article!
The airline wrote on Friday: “We expect our service to China to increase in the coming weeks to accommodate the resumption of factory production. These flights will, however, be operated in accordance with recommendations from the WHO and other regulatory bodies as well as Cargolux’s own restrictions including no crew layovers in China.
The airline anticipated a backlog of work to “replenish inventory levels and to provide required parts and materiel for manufacturers outside of China, e.g. the automobile industry. This situation could well result in a surge in demand for air freight capacity out of China when production recommences,” it wrote.
"Expect," "anticipate" "and could" are not facts, as a 'pilot' you should know that!

So now let's look at the FACTS in that same article:

In a press release issued on Friday evening, Cargolux said that the outbreak, combined with the Chinese New Year, had a “significant impact on demand for air freight out of China as many factories have not yet re-opened.

As a result, Cargolux and Cargolux Italia reduced their frequencies into China to adjust to the market situation.
Look at FlightRadar24 and you'll see most flights to the Middle East turn around and fly back empty to LUX, instead of continuing to HKG and flights to/from CGO, PVG, PEK, XMN are a fraction of what they normally would be. Only a few flights continue to the Far East from the Middle East and ASB.

How is this a "strong China cargo market?"
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Old 19th Feb 2020, 14:05
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I guess this post isn't about Cargolux but Cargologic. The fact IS that today they announced they will suspend the operations for the next couple of months. It was an article regarding the coronavirus results. If as an airline you expect to pick up the backlog of the ops i think you should try at least to hang in there. CLA crews and employees are paying very expensive the total mess that the previous management left. I really wish the best for them. P.S. FrontRunner you seem a bit stressed out, chill out buddy.

What about this article then?
https://www.aircargonews.net/airline...ghter-flights/
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Old 20th Feb 2020, 10:02
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SkyHawk1985, I take it you are or were a CLA employee, my guess is you are working for the company still (or has a partner in the company) as all you seemingly post is about CLA. I hope the 1985 in your name doesn't relate to your DOB or when you started in the industry as I am sure that you could be easily identified and you could be in a sticky situation with your posts if the CLA management wanted to check up on you!
Here is hoping that no airline goes under because the company uses COVID-19 as an excuse.
And Front Runner, thanks for balancing the statement submitted by SkyHawk1985. All facts must be considered, as should the wording within.
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Old 20th Feb 2020, 15:15
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No i am not working for this company nor an affiliate. You are guessing wrong. I would never share info. If i don't like it were i am working and my job conditions i always try to change that myself and not start moaning. That's not my style. It is just lets say I was a huge supporter of this setup and i got disappointed by the previous management. By the way i am not sharing secret info. When the CAA is involved any reporter who wants to find what's going on, they just can call them. At the end of the day are they flying? nope. Have they reduced fleet? Yes. Its simple its not any secret. I really wish they can recover
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Old 25th Feb 2020, 13:14
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Looking worse....

https://www.aircargonews.net/airline...ds-operations/
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Old 27th Feb 2020, 19:59
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https://www.flightglobal.com/airline...136969.article

A sad end. It’s already on Wikipedia as ceasing ops on 9th Feb. Website down too. My heart goes out to all involved, I know exactly what it’s like.
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Old 28th Feb 2020, 07:46
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ACG also suspends ops. 3 747’s.
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Old 29th Feb 2020, 17:58
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I am so lucky.... i have passed the interview at their offices near Heathrow last march with their HR head and an Ex-Ba Cpt TRI/TRE on the 747, very kind gentleman and honest too when i asked him at the end few questions about the operations and some advices as well. In the other hand this young lady (Head of HR) and her totally UNPROFESSIONAL behaviour on her replies through email after the interview (which was successful), in fact she never replied to me when i asked about taxation and such things so i did understand that the management or at least part of it was totally unorganised/inexperienced. All that plus the joke money they were offering for a first officer position made me not bother to even go to the simulator assessment in Frankfurt.
Very sad news though for the people working there...seems that 2020 will not be a great year not only in aviation but in a lot of industries.
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Old 22nd Apr 2020, 18:23
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Just seen news they are starting up again with two 747Fs.
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Old 23rd Apr 2020, 05:24
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Originally Posted by N707ZS View Post
Just seen news they are starting up again with two 747Fs.
707 -
who, ACG ? do you have a source ?
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Old 23rd Apr 2020, 06:51
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Traced my steps from yesterday and found the website with it on. Hope it helps someone.

https://www.aircargonews.net/airline...th-two-b747fs/
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Old 23rd Apr 2020, 09:17
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Originally Posted by N707ZS View Post
Traced my steps from yesterday and found the website with it on. Hope it helps someone.

https://www.aircargonews.net/airline...th-two-b747fs/
indeed, thanks - let's see if and when they (Cargo Logic Air / CLA and not Air Cargo Global / ACG) will take off again - am certain that their "parent" is keen on capitalizing on current rate levels

Last edited by hailstone; 23rd Apr 2020 at 09:20. Reason: CLA not ACG
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Old 23rd Apr 2020, 13:52
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one of their airplanes is already in the air according to FR24.
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Old 23rd Apr 2020, 16:45
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Makes sense there is hugh demand
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Old 25th Apr 2020, 09:36
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These are very good news!!! Of course as i said in a previous post they should wait and they actually made it! Covid-19 maybe a killer for the pax flying but is an opportunity for the cargo airlines to serve the world and expand. Hopefully they will stay for long this time!
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