GSS contract with BA terminated
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How sweet it must be to be as self assured and as righteous in the ways of the lord god as the Reverend 4468, all praise his name.
I bow down and scrape before the shining light of your wisdom and henceforth shall accept redundancy and the end of my career with as much grace as one so unworthy can manage. I am a worm, a nasty crawling thing and the wrath that BA have rained down upon my head is as justified as the fire and brimstone that was rained down on Sodom and Gomorrah. Halleluljah, for it is written that my utterings and even the utterings of all who do not reside in the temple of BA are as nothing in the divine light of their mightiness and I shall sod in an offwards direction forthwith in sackcloth and ashes and with wailing and weeping for I have been found wanting by the priesthood. Amen.
F*ck you flower, F*ck you very much.
I bow down and scrape before the shining light of your wisdom and henceforth shall accept redundancy and the end of my career with as much grace as one so unworthy can manage. I am a worm, a nasty crawling thing and the wrath that BA have rained down upon my head is as justified as the fire and brimstone that was rained down on Sodom and Gomorrah. Halleluljah, for it is written that my utterings and even the utterings of all who do not reside in the temple of BA are as nothing in the divine light of their mightiness and I shall sod in an offwards direction forthwith in sackcloth and ashes and with wailing and weeping for I have been found wanting by the priesthood. Amen.
F*ck you flower, F*ck you very much.
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If GSS had been serious about operating other ACMI contracts they've had around 7 years to get their act together.
GSS was always an Atlas/BA instrument used to service the Speedbird contract so that Atlas didn't lose it (for political reasons).
They are Atlas aircraft unfortunately. Any additional contracts out there would have been serviced by Atlas...not GSS.
The talk of possible extra customers for GSS over the years was just that. Talk to give the troops some hope.
Many good people at GSS...Sorry to see this is ending up in a similarly brutal state to the AACS/AABO Atlas STN base demise. Bad things sometimes happen to good people.
All the very best to everyone at GSS.
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As popgun said.
However it may still be prudent for Atlas to have use of a UK AOC should a suitable contract come along, even for just one aircraft whether it be a -400 or a -8.
I believe two of the GSS -8s are going to LUX for bridging checks before returning to Atlas and the other HKG. I don't think Atlas have found work for all 3 of them yet. With the military flying slowing down it will be hard to put these three airframes in a contract flying the same kind of block hours that they are currently flying with GSS.
However it may still be prudent for Atlas to have use of a UK AOC should a suitable contract come along, even for just one aircraft whether it be a -400 or a -8.
I believe two of the GSS -8s are going to LUX for bridging checks before returning to Atlas and the other HKG. I don't think Atlas have found work for all 3 of them yet. With the military flying slowing down it will be hard to put these three airframes in a contract flying the same kind of block hours that they are currently flying with GSS.
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How sweet it must be to be as self assured and as righteous in the ways of the lord god as the Reverend 4468, all praise his name.
I bow down and scrape before the shining light of your wisdom and henceforth shall accept redundancy and the end of my career with as much grace as one so unworthy can manage. I am a worm, a nasty crawling thing and the wrath that BA have rained down upon my head is as justified as the fire and brimstone that was rained down on Sodom and Gomorrah. Halleluljah, for it is written that my utterings and even the utterings of all who do not reside in the temple of BA are as nothing in the divine light of their mightiness and I shall sod in an offwards direction forthwith in sackcloth and ashes and with wailing and weeping for I have been found wanting by the priesthood. Amen.
F*ck you flower, F*ck you very much.
I bow down and scrape before the shining light of your wisdom and henceforth shall accept redundancy and the end of my career with as much grace as one so unworthy can manage. I am a worm, a nasty crawling thing and the wrath that BA have rained down upon my head is as justified as the fire and brimstone that was rained down on Sodom and Gomorrah. Halleluljah, for it is written that my utterings and even the utterings of all who do not reside in the temple of BA are as nothing in the divine light of their mightiness and I shall sod in an offwards direction forthwith in sackcloth and ashes and with wailing and weeping for I have been found wanting by the priesthood. Amen.
F*ck you flower, F*ck you very much.
I don't relish your current situation and wish you well, but just try and stop a permanent grumble wherever you end up; life is just too short.
Enjoy ORD.
As for "working hard" to pass BA selection, utter bollocks. You were fortunate enough to have filled in the form on the right day so that you happened to fit the profile that the outsourced firm that screens them were looking for that afternoon. You simply had the chance that others who fell outside of whatever prescription was in force that day did not. Any number of people could be in your place today, you just got lucky, so whoopee **** for you. You are no better than the rest of us, you just seem to think you are.
As for secondees 'stealing' your command in GSS, remember, dear chap that you would have had to pass the command training in GSS to achieve your goal.
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Would it be fair to summarise the thread as IAG have found somebody to fly IAG/BA/IB's freight at a lower cost than GSS ?
I would have thought there now would be more empathy for the outrage that BA's pilots felt when the work was outsourced from them?
Pointless blaming the workers...better to blame the highly paid execs in Madrid awarding themselves nice bonuses and share options.
I would have thought there now would be more empathy for the outrage that BA's pilots felt when the work was outsourced from them?
Pointless blaming the workers...better to blame the highly paid execs in Madrid awarding themselves nice bonuses and share options.
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I don't know. Do BA pilots still have the same outrage regarding the BAWC freight that is currently being flown by DHL?
I don't know. Do BA pilots still have the same outrage regarding the BAWC freight that is currently being flown by DHL?
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But BAWC had the option to purchase/dry lease their own freighters and didn't, instead choosing to wet lease from Atlas initially until BALPA/IPA intervened and GSS was formed. It appears BA pilots (such as 4468) blame GSS for the loss of this flying when maybe their own management were to blame?
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But BAWC had the option to purchase/dry lease their own freighters and didn't, instead choosing to wet lease from Atlas initially until BALPA/IPA intervened and GSS was formed. It appears BA pilots (such as 4468) blame GSS for the loss of this flying when maybe their own management were to blame?
I'll bow out now as I'm on my last trip and time is precious.
Good luck to all.
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The only decent thing said in the last five pages
Loved my time there
Very disappointed for a lot of very good people
Many good people at GSS...Sorry to see this is ending up in a similarly brutal state to the AACS/AABO Atlas STN base demise. Bad things sometimes happen to good people.
All the very best to everyone at GSS.
All the very best to everyone at GSS.
Loved my time there
Very disappointed for a lot of very good people
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Obviously a sad time for those involved, but I am surprised to see as I write, G-GSSE en-route with a BAW callsign over India and G-GSSF en-route over China, again with a BAW callsign.
As I understand it the secondees have returned to BA.
Are these continuing flights with BAW callsigns an extension to the contract or something else?
Just curious.
As I understand it the secondees have returned to BA.
Are these continuing flights with BAW callsigns an extension to the contract or something else?
Just curious.
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G-GSSF Return to RME
The simple task of returning the first jet back to RME didn't go according to plan. US Customs chappies had no paperwork so we couldn't unload. Had to sit a while before that could happen. Then there was mention of import duties for Foxtrot. Crew went out of hours just as we started to unload so they had a head start at the bar. Eventually unloaded and put the jet to bed and caught up with the crew, in the bar. Next day was her final flight in Big Airways colours and UK reg, call sign Jetlift 604. Landed RME. Shut her down and walked away. Sad really. I wonder if the trade and industry secretary is aware of the havoc wrought by IAG's commercial decision. Good pilots with no chance whatsoever of flying again. Dull if you ask me. If any of the GSS crews read this, you were Gentleman one and all. Sad and sorry it's all over. I don't know what the Latin translation is for: "something this good shouldn't have lasted this long".
Aufweidersehen.
Aufweidersehen.
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The trade and industry secretary is doubtless aware of the situation and equally does not give a tiny stuff. The union tried to bring the whole thing to the attention of government and absolutely nothing has happened so I wouldn't put any hope in that direction. We are operating in a globalized industry and UK jobs are expendable if they can be done cheaper elsewhere and especially if doing so increases the profits and bonus payments of the management.
I hope that IAG have good luck chartering an Antonov when they suddenly have to shift something that won't fit into the side door of a 777 and I hope that their employees continue to appreciate their logic when one fine day they decide that it is cheaper for Emirates to fly their long haul services and BA becomes a virtual airline.
I missed my last trip as I had to suddenly go into hospital for an op, so before I sign off for ever, just to say it has been a pleasure. To all my colleagues on the flight deck,in operations, the loadies and engineers. All the best to the guys going to the Middle east, the 787 and those few staying on the 747. To the others I hope something comes along soon and to those taking retirement, especially the BA over 55 club, enjoy it, it was a pleasure to know you all. To the secondees, even you A340YY, enjoy the 320/777 and I hope you had a good time with us.
And that's that.
I hope that IAG have good luck chartering an Antonov when they suddenly have to shift something that won't fit into the side door of a 777 and I hope that their employees continue to appreciate their logic when one fine day they decide that it is cheaper for Emirates to fly their long haul services and BA becomes a virtual airline.
I missed my last trip as I had to suddenly go into hospital for an op, so before I sign off for ever, just to say it has been a pleasure. To all my colleagues on the flight deck,in operations, the loadies and engineers. All the best to the guys going to the Middle east, the 787 and those few staying on the 747. To the others I hope something comes along soon and to those taking retirement, especially the BA over 55 club, enjoy it, it was a pleasure to know you all. To the secondees, even you A340YY, enjoy the 320/777 and I hope you had a good time with us.
And that's that.
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Oh dear.When are people going to realise that if your not in a BA mainline uniform or on a mainline contract ,some time in the future your going to be shafted.
BALPA will always see to that.
BALPA will always see to that.