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Worldwideorbit.... Many of the things that you mention are true. I am only going to comment on two things and two things only.
First, I am a proud ex VIASA pilot, never heard about the mafia, I don't get the best trips and not even my wife listens to me.
Second, the chief pilot is not Venezuelan, she is Colombian.
First, I am a proud ex VIASA pilot, never heard about the mafia, I don't get the best trips and not even my wife listens to me.
Second, the chief pilot is not Venezuelan, she is Colombian.
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SKYLEASE a PLACE FOR DESPERATE PEOPLE
I have 2 friends flying for Skylease at the moment, they are both gringos and do not belong to the mafia. From what I hear, there are two separate "gangs" in this airline, the gringos and the Latinos, pretty much dominated by Venzuelan pilots from that VIACSA airline.
From what I have been told, maintenance is a BIG issue in that place. Pilots are flying with many DMI's and most of the maintenance is penciled in as previously said.
This is just a place to go in, fly some hours on the MD-11, build the time you need and move on. Pilots are leaving left and right and management doesn't even care. I was told that they own the flight simulator for the MD-11 at Boeing in Miami, for this reason, they can train and train all they want. They do have THE WORST contract in the industry. FOs make 55 dollars and hour and pretty much don't have any other benefit. They have a 2 year contract for training for somewhere in the $15K-$20K figure, but anyone who has left the company has not paid out a dime back to the company.
I have not heard anything good from this airline and time will only tell to see what happens with the pilot group, but management has to do something about it or else they will have to park their MD-11 (which by the way, the currently have 4 or 5). Like it has been previously said, only consider this place if you are very low time, need experience, or are not current and want to get back into flying.
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From what I have been told, maintenance is a BIG issue in that place. Pilots are flying with many DMI's and most of the maintenance is penciled in as previously said.
This is just a place to go in, fly some hours on the MD-11, build the time you need and move on. Pilots are leaving left and right and management doesn't even care. I was told that they own the flight simulator for the MD-11 at Boeing in Miami, for this reason, they can train and train all they want. They do have THE WORST contract in the industry. FOs make 55 dollars and hour and pretty much don't have any other benefit. They have a 2 year contract for training for somewhere in the $15K-$20K figure, but anyone who has left the company has not paid out a dime back to the company.
I have not heard anything good from this airline and time will only tell to see what happens with the pilot group, but management has to do something about it or else they will have to park their MD-11 (which by the way, the currently have 4 or 5). Like it has been previously said, only consider this place if you are very low time, need experience, or are not current and want to get back into flying.
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All this in Miami??
"From what I hear, there are two separate "gangs" in this airline, the gringos and the Latinos,......."
In Miami??? Nah, never happen...................
In Miami??? Nah, never happen...................
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The mafia? who are the Sopranos?
When you needed to have the “G” stamped in your but to work here, I did not hear so many complains.
No one else was admitted here.
At the end the owner realized who was the mafia. Do not complain anymore, quit, give the position to someone else that wants to have a job, get a life and good luck in JetBlue….. and if you are not accepted there go to Southern, Atlas or Kalitta.
By the way, I just heard (my Latino good friend) that on September 1st we are going to have a meeting with the CEO, DO and CP to discuss and reach a final decision about getting a salary raise and improving our working conditions.
If you do not have “balls” to demand better working conditions do not go, keep badmouthing here or in the Hialeah chitchat room, if that makes you happy…. 
No one else was admitted here. At the end the owner realized who was the mafia. Do not complain anymore, quit, give the position to someone else that wants to have a job, get a life and good luck in JetBlue….. and if you are not accepted there go to Southern, Atlas or Kalitta.By the way, I just heard (my Latino good friend) that on September 1st we are going to have a meeting with the CEO, DO and CP to discuss and reach a final decision about getting a salary raise and improving our working conditions.
If you do not have “balls” to demand better working conditions do not go, keep badmouthing here or in the Hialeah chitchat room, if that makes you happy….
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Get a life......
You do not have a clue.
There is only one C.A from Viasa, the rest are extradewinds and one from Gemini. The new one is coming from Eva Air.
If you are going to speak B.S,
please get informed…what brewing company are you using in your session of heavy drinking in the Hialeah chitchat room? I can’t believe it’s “the colada”
There is only one C.A from Viasa, the rest are extradewinds and one from Gemini. The new one is coming from Eva Air. If you are going to speak B.S, please get informed…what brewing company are you using in your session of heavy drinking in the Hialeah chitchat room? I can’t believe it’s “the colada”
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Ex-plantation pilot,
using TEXT ` EM that sent an astonishing message to 20 pilots, we know who you are……….get a life…be carful Chucky
…do not go to the Keys…
PS: forward from CIA/FBI.
using TEXT ` EM that sent an astonishing message to 20 pilots, we know who you are……….get a life…be carful Chucky…do not go to the Keys…PS: forward from CIA/FBI.
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skylease badmouthers
Everyone knew what the pay and conditions were before you got here.
For those guys that have no heavy time this is a great gig.
For the rest of us this is a new Airline and as with all new start airlines growing pains are the norm.Its not the best place to be at, but neither is it the worst.
The Pay could be better and some type of reserve or scheduled system as the crews are getting bigger and the current sit and wait until we call you system will no longer be adequate.I,m looking forward to the future of the company and although there are other heavys hiring I like most of what I see here except of course the Badmouthers on line.
you will have the opportunity to say what you want on the first of September at the beoing center when the brass meets with the pilots.If you don,t say anything there and then Please don,t get on this site and run your mouth as it really sounds Pathetic and you will only sound like a whinger and whiner.
Until then Happy Complaining
For those guys that have no heavy time this is a great gig.
For the rest of us this is a new Airline and as with all new start airlines growing pains are the norm.Its not the best place to be at, but neither is it the worst.
The Pay could be better and some type of reserve or scheduled system as the crews are getting bigger and the current sit and wait until we call you system will no longer be adequate.I,m looking forward to the future of the company and although there are other heavys hiring I like most of what I see here except of course the Badmouthers on line.
you will have the opportunity to say what you want on the first of September at the beoing center when the brass meets with the pilots.If you don,t say anything there and then Please don,t get on this site and run your mouth as it really sounds Pathetic and you will only sound like a whinger and whiner.
Until then Happy Complaining
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No worries folks, will all be settled soon.
Midex management ADO coming to show pilots the proper way things should be done.
Ex Tradewinds,,greet him with open arms,,he likes that.
Midex management ADO coming to show pilots the proper way things should be done.
Ex Tradewinds,,greet him with open arms,,he likes that.
I have worked for AR long time ago...don't expect too much of him.
He doesn't care about having a good airline, the only thing he cares of is to make money.
He already bought the ARROW AIR's bunkruptcy so when Skylease guys were asking too much like the Centurion at this moment...he would transfer the aircraft to ARROW AIR and everything starts again.
He doesn't care about having a good airline, the only thing he cares of is to make money.
He already bought the ARROW AIR's bunkruptcy so when Skylease guys were asking too much like the Centurion at this moment...he would transfer the aircraft to ARROW AIR and everything starts again.
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10 reasons not to complain about your flying job (ever)
1: It makes things look worse than they are
When people complain, they focus only on what’s wrong. Things may be mostly fine in the company, but complainers only talk about the problems, annoyances and peeves they perceive.
If things in a company are 80% good and 20% bad and you spend most of your time thinking and talking about the bad 20% – the situation will look a lot worse than it really is.
2: It becomes a habitThe more you complain, the easier it gets. In the end, everything is bad, every situation is a problem, every co-worker is a jerk and nothing is good.
The more you focus on the negative, the harder it gets to switch into a positive mindset.
3: You get what you focus on
According to Wikipedia, Confirmation bias is:…a tendency to search for or interpret new information in a way that confirms one’s preconceptions and avoid information and interpretations which contradict prior beliefs.
In other words, what you already believe influences your perception of everything around you. That’s why constant complaining makes you see everything in a negative light, because your subconscious mind tries to make new observation fit with what you already know.
4: It leads to onedownmanship
A complaining session might go something like this:
7: It favors negative people
The way to get status among complainers is to be the most negative. To be the one who sees everything in the most negative light.
Any attempt to be positive or cheerful will be shot down and optimists will be accused of being Pollyanna, naive and unrealistic.
8: It promotes bad relationships
People who complain together unite against the world and can create strong internal relationships based on this. But these relationships are based mostly on negative experiences. That’s not healthy.
It also means that you can only continue to be a part of the group if you can continue to complain, miring you even deeper in a complaint mindset.
9: It creates cliques
Being positive, optimistic and appreciative makes you more open towards other people – no matter who they are. It becomes easy to connect to co-workers in other departments, projects or divisions.
Complaining, on the other hand, makes people gather in cliques with their fellow complainers where they can be critical and suspicious of everybody else.
10: Pessimism is bad for you
Psychologist Martin Seligman showed in his groundbreaking research in positive psychology that people who see the world in a positive light have a long list of advantages, including:
time o get back to my peanut butter and jelly sandwich now. Just had to keep it real thats all.
When people complain, they focus only on what’s wrong. Things may be mostly fine in the company, but complainers only talk about the problems, annoyances and peeves they perceive.
If things in a company are 80% good and 20% bad and you spend most of your time thinking and talking about the bad 20% – the situation will look a lot worse than it really is.
2: It becomes a habitThe more you complain, the easier it gets. In the end, everything is bad, every situation is a problem, every co-worker is a jerk and nothing is good.
The more you focus on the negative, the harder it gets to switch into a positive mindset.
3: You get what you focus on
According to Wikipedia, Confirmation bias is:…a tendency to search for or interpret new information in a way that confirms one’s preconceptions and avoid information and interpretations which contradict prior beliefs.
In other words, what you already believe influences your perception of everything around you. That’s why constant complaining makes you see everything in a negative light, because your subconscious mind tries to make new observation fit with what you already know.
4: It leads to onedownmanship
A complaining session might go something like this:
The other day, my boss came in 5 minutes before I was leaving and asked me to finish two huge projects for him. I had to stay two hours and missed my football game.
Yeah, well my boss told me to work this weekend AND the next.
Hah, that’s nothing! My boss…This type of interaction rewards the person with the worst story who can complain the loudest. Not healthy!
5: It makes people despondent
Not only does constant complaining make you see the workplace as worse than it really is, but because you’re constantly hearing stories of how bad things are and how they’re constantly getting worse it also destroys all hope that things can get better.
This of course makes people less likely to take action to improve their situation, because everybody knows it’s doomed to fail anyway.
Yeah, well my boss told me to work this weekend AND the next.
Hah, that’s nothing! My boss…This type of interaction rewards the person with the worst story who can complain the loudest. Not healthy!
5: It makes people despondent
Not only does constant complaining make you see the workplace as worse than it really is, but because you’re constantly hearing stories of how bad things are and how they’re constantly getting worse it also destroys all hope that things can get better.
This of course makes people less likely to take action to improve their situation, because everybody knows it’s doomed to fail anyway.
6: It kills innovation
Because the situations looks so hopeless, people become less creative and innovative. What’s the point of coming up with ideas and implementing them – it’s never going to work anyway.
Also, chronic complainers are the first to shoot down any new idea.Because the situations looks so hopeless, people become less creative and innovative. What’s the point of coming up with ideas and implementing them – it’s never going to work anyway.
7: It favors negative people
The way to get status among complainers is to be the most negative. To be the one who sees everything in the most negative light.
Any attempt to be positive or cheerful will be shot down and optimists will be accused of being Pollyanna, naive and unrealistic.
8: It promotes bad relationships
People who complain together unite against the world and can create strong internal relationships based on this. But these relationships are based mostly on negative experiences. That’s not healthy.
It also means that you can only continue to be a part of the group if you can continue to complain, miring you even deeper in a complaint mindset.
9: It creates cliques
Being positive, optimistic and appreciative makes you more open towards other people – no matter who they are. It becomes easy to connect to co-workers in other departments, projects or divisions.
Complaining, on the other hand, makes people gather in cliques with their fellow complainers where they can be critical and suspicious of everybody else.
10: Pessimism is bad for you
Psychologist Martin Seligman showed in his groundbreaking research in positive psychology that people who see the world in a positive light have a long list of advantages, including:
- They live longer
- They’re healthier
- They have more friends and better social lives
- They enjoy life more
- They’re more successful at work
time o get back to my peanut butter and jelly sandwich now. Just had to keep it real thats all.
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Sucking Down the Coolaid
How did that meeting work out for you. O that us right the CEO did not even come to MIAMI!!!!!!! it was much easier to avoid question on the computer.
The last time he came down for a meeting the local pilots got together and wined and dinned him. They thought they had worked out a deal, and then he did it to them also. Not what they taled about. A 2.00 increase.
The CEO is on record saying the PAY AND BENEFITS WILL NEVER GET BETTER UNLESS I SEE A BENEFIT FOR ME
The posts are right there are a lot of good people here, and a lot of good pilots. Yes there is a maphia and there is a few good pilot in their group., but not as many as they think. They have the power because where the company is not for their flying abolities.
The experienced MD11 pilots are all leaving. On one hand you can count the heavy experienced MD11 time guys, and that number decreases by the day.
If you live in Miami and do not mind 24 hrs on call, or selling yourself to make a buck, this place is for you. If you want a schedule don't do it. The schedule changes 4-5 times a day. & if a maphia want's your trip he will call in and it's his.
The duty time is long say departure time is 0500Z for a 18 hrs duty day,with delays it now is leaving at 1700Z they still expect you to do the trip even though your rest is screwed up.
They do part 91 tailend ferrys, they do not consider DH duty, so A 35 hurs dh is not unexceptable in their mind
. If you are willing good for you.
The maphia biggest thing is they say you need to speak spanish to fly to South America. The only place I hear this is Miami. I do not see that as a requirement at UPS,FEDEX,AA,DELTA,World,ATLAS,KLM,MARTIN AIR but why in Miami they do not anyone taking what they see as theirs. That is the only reason.
I could go on but other post are right on. Pay is bad. A captain with health insurance after taxes brings home 1500.00 every two weeks. Hard to pay the bills.
JUST WANT EVERYONE TO BE INFORMED BEFORE THEY MAKE THE FINAL DECESION. BY THE WAY THEY MAKE YOU SIGN A 25,000 TRAINING BOND FOR TWO YEARS. WITH THE AMOUNT OF HIRING IN THE FUTURE THAT SEEMS EXTREAME.
WELL TO ANYONE I OFFENDED WITH MY STATEMENTS I AM SORRY
BUT I AM JSUT TELLING IT AS I AM LIVING IT. GOOD LUCK OF FINDING A JOB WHERE YOU CAN BE HAPPY AND NO COMPLAIN WHERE YOU CAN SPEND A LOT OF TIME WITH YOUR FAMILY. GOD BLESS
The last time he came down for a meeting the local pilots got together and wined and dinned him. They thought they had worked out a deal, and then he did it to them also. Not what they taled about. A 2.00 increase.
The CEO is on record saying the PAY AND BENEFITS WILL NEVER GET BETTER UNLESS I SEE A BENEFIT FOR ME
The posts are right there are a lot of good people here, and a lot of good pilots. Yes there is a maphia and there is a few good pilot in their group.
, but not as many as they think. They have the power because where the company is not for their flying abolities.The experienced MD11 pilots are all leaving. On one hand you can count the heavy experienced MD11 time guys, and that number decreases by the day.
If you live in Miami and do not mind 24 hrs on call, or selling yourself to make a buck, this place is for you. If you want a schedule don't do it. The schedule changes 4-5 times a day. & if a maphia want's your trip he will call in and it's his.
The duty time is long say departure time is 0500Z for a 18 hrs duty day,with delays it now is leaving at 1700Z they still expect you to do the trip even though your rest is screwed up.
They do part 91 tailend ferrys, they do not consider DH duty, so A 35 hurs dh is not unexceptable in their mind
. If you are willing good for you.The maphia biggest thing is they say you need to speak spanish to fly to South America. The only place I hear this is Miami. I do not see that as a requirement at UPS,FEDEX,AA,DELTA,World,ATLAS,KLM,MARTIN AIR but why in Miami they do not anyone taking what they see as theirs. That is the only reason
.I could go on but other post are right on. Pay is bad. A captain with health insurance after taxes brings home 1500.00 every two weeks.
Hard to pay the bills. JUST WANT EVERYONE TO BE INFORMED BEFORE THEY MAKE THE FINAL DECESION. BY THE WAY THEY MAKE YOU SIGN A 25,000 TRAINING BOND FOR TWO YEARS. WITH THE AMOUNT OF HIRING IN THE FUTURE THAT SEEMS EXTREAME.
WELL TO ANYONE I OFFENDED WITH MY STATEMENTS I AM SORRY
BUT I AM JSUT TELLING IT AS I AM LIVING IT. GOOD LUCK OF FINDING A JOB WHERE YOU CAN BE HAPPY AND NO COMPLAIN WHERE YOU CAN SPEND A LOT OF TIME WITH YOUR FAMILY. GOD BLESSJoin Date: Dec 2008
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May I ask as to why SkyLease is in existence? If the owner also owns Centurion, why not grow Centurion? Same aircraft type, same area of operation. Can anybody give me some insight? BTW, I have to give credit where it is due, the new MRO on 36th Street for Centurion is about the biggest project in recent memory, good to see some life coming back to the North Side after the Eastern debacle.
