Avient making headlines again
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ajwajw, dont make broad sweeping statements, - it only serves to demonstrate your ignorance.
Now put your money where your mouth is wiseguy, name the MD-11's by registration no and company that you suggest are freely available for lease or purchase.
You have us waiting in suspense!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Now put your money where your mouth is wiseguy, name the MD-11's by registration no and company that you suggest are freely available for lease or purchase.
You have us waiting in suspense!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Hmmmm, Transmile in Malaysia has been trying to sell their 4 P&W MD-11's for over a year now... No luck so far.... 
Oh, yeah: Registration:
9M-TMP
9M-TMQ
9M-TMR
9M-TMS
Anybody need the cellphone number of the FOM?
Oh, yeah: Registration:
9M-TMP
9M-TMQ
9M-TMR
9M-TMS
Anybody need the cellphone number of the FOM?
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TDX
I understand Tradewinds (US) has a class of previously qualified MD-11 guys going on right now for airplanes they will get in the near future. If they can find and lease or purchase, seems like not too difficult....... IF, of course, true.
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Transmile is under some sort of bankrupcy protection and not in a position to dispose of any of their assests, even their old 727's, till the situation has been resolved.
That rules them out.
That rules them out.
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LCAG has some of them stored. I am sure they would be quite happy to sell it to an airline that will not be a direct competition to them...
Moreover, EVA in Taiwan has lots of them as well...
If you want it, you can find it...
Moreover, EVA in Taiwan has lots of them as well...
If you want it, you can find it...
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well come on chaps we seem to be getting away from the Avient issue which was why the tread was started in the first place, we all know that if you have the dosh there are md-11f's avble you may even get a BOGOF offer in the current climate, anyway further up-dates on the avient situation, they have just made 6 cpt's, 3 x fe's, 3 x fo's and 3 x l/m's redundant, and rumour has it that they have also just lost the traffic rights into Baghdad, which was their sparkling new destination, so what is happening with this african carrier has mr smith stretched the purse strings too far ???......updates please
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I am a great believer in what goes around comes around. If ones business ethic is to try and screw all your customers and your staff live in fear of the owner (Smith) then can you really expect them to survive in the longer term? No reputable leasing company would lease a valuable asset like an MD11F to a Zimbawean registered airline and Avient only got the DC10's from Boeing Capital because they had no other home for them after the demise of Das Air. It's only a matter of time.......
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We all know there are MD11's sitting on the ground doing nothing due to the downturn in the industry but my previous point was that any airframe worth anything has already been 'reserved' by the big players. Mr Smith has kept his crews by dangling the carrot of a change in fleet for a long time now but even an idiot would realise that the amount of capitol required to finance a fleet change would be far beyond the means of Avient. Are they parking up an a/c given the number of crews he has supposedly laid off? Seems the wheel is continuing to turn and maybe the remaining crews should be looking elsewhere very soon before they find themselves stranded.
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Baghdad lights ex XCR
I assume they have had to stop the flights into Iraq because of the new found strength of Iraqi Airways and their new partner Rus Aviation with cargo in / out. In short - if its not planned / arranged via Rus and a royalty payment is duely distributed.......you don`t fly. At least that is what is happening UAE / Kuwait or any country around Iraq. Although it now appears ( my assumption ) to have spread to the rest of the world. It even applies to US Military flights !!! via Iraqi Civilian Airports.....the situation is bizarre.....but produces lots of $$$$ for someone, for the time being.
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Available MD11F's
Sorry to do this, but there are at least 4 units available on the open market for sale.
Transmile's 4 MD11F's are currently being remarketed, Aeroflot cargo went belly up a few weeks back and those leased aircraft may be made available for lease, and on top of those ones, there are around 10 that are being parked/stored as airlines try to weather the downturn.
In short, if Avient want MD11F's, they could certainly get hold of some for short, medium or long term.
Transmile's 4 MD11F's are currently being remarketed, Aeroflot cargo went belly up a few weeks back and those leased aircraft may be made available for lease, and on top of those ones, there are around 10 that are being parked/stored as airlines try to weather the downturn.
In short, if Avient want MD11F's, they could certainly get hold of some for short, medium or long term.
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There has been some discussions about a possible move to LGG for some time now.
I think they were afraid that Cargo B could object on some of their routes as they are Z-registered and need to obtain non-objection for any flights ex-LGG (except to Harare of course).
Now Cargo B is history, so who knows what's going through a commercial manager's head ?
I personnaly think they would be fool to leave XCR to LGG as they will never get the same service in LGG.
They are the "kings" of XCR. They can ask pretty much whatever they want regarding loading (especially for some extra long pieces) and they get it.
They can forget that in LGG.
Just my 2 cents....
I think they were afraid that Cargo B could object on some of their routes as they are Z-registered and need to obtain non-objection for any flights ex-LGG (except to Harare of course).
Now Cargo B is history, so who knows what's going through a commercial manager's head ?
I personnaly think they would be fool to leave XCR to LGG as they will never get the same service in LGG.
They are the "kings" of XCR. They can ask pretty much whatever they want regarding loading (especially for some extra long pieces) and they get it.
They can forget that in LGG.
Just my 2 cents....
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Hm..... The handling agent at Lgg they will use is pretty good.
I have pushed some serious loads trough that place allready and
they managed fine.
Anyway, it is all about the money!
I have pushed some serious loads trough that place allready and
they managed fine.
Anyway, it is all about the money!
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It's exactly the kind of company that lgg management tries to attract.
They have the warehouse ready, everything could start very quickly ...
and we already know the advantages of LGG ...
On the other hand, we know vatry will fight to death to not loose this kind of player
They have the warehouse ready, everything could start very quickly ...
and we already know the advantages of LGG ...
On the other hand, we know vatry will fight to death to not loose this kind of player
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Have seen this today
Good Afternoon,
As of today Avient are no longer operating from Vatry airport.
We will no longer be sending trucks down to Vatry, so will be unable to move any of your cargo to this destination.
Apologies.
Thanks for your business and we hope to work with you again in the fututre.
Good Afternoon,
As of today Avient are no longer operating from Vatry airport.
We will no longer be sending trucks down to Vatry, so will be unable to move any of your cargo to this destination.
Apologies.
Thanks for your business and we hope to work with you again in the fututre.