well come on chaps we seem to be getting away from the Avient issue which was why the tread was started in the first place, we all know that if you have the dosh there are md-11f's avble you may even get a BOGOF offer in the current climate, anyway further up-dates on the avient situation, they have just made 6 cpt's, 3 x fe's, 3 x fo's and 3 x l/m's redundant, and rumour has it that they have also just lost the traffic rights into Baghdad, which was their sparkling new destination, so what is happening with this african carrier has mr smith stretched the purse strings too far ???......updates please