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Avient making headlines again

Old 8th Sep 2009, 16:36
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It's fact effective today.....! seems short notice.?
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Old 9th Sep 2009, 07:10
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Are we sure the new airport is LGG ?
I see no evidence ...

EDIT : I've found this:
OAGCargo.com - The leading information portal for the cargo industry

I'm very surprised that we had no official communication from Liège airport, they usually are proud to announce things like that.

LGG is also trying to attract Thai cargo which need a good african net from the european base.
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Old 9th Sep 2009, 08:53
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Are we sure the new airport is LGG ?

I would say so, they have issued an announcement to all of their customers that all ops moved to Liege "with effect 8th September". Seems a slightly hasty departure from Vatry.
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Old 9th Sep 2009, 09:04
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Vatry Monday, Liege Tuesday, very strange ! For such a quick change of base to happen and only notifying your customers on the day it happens does not sound like a coordinated move in my opinion. Vatry Airport can kiss goodbye to any oustanding funds due to them.
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Old 9th Sep 2009, 09:14
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it's now official
Avient Newsroom
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Old 9th Sep 2009, 11:39
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Hmmm, makes you wonder how many of the bills in the local area will be settled.

Hotels, rentals etc

As for most of the staff at Avient - Vatry - good riddance, many were very rude and unhelpful, especially Fat Pat.
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Old 9th Sep 2009, 11:43
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Any idea of the trafic Avient was generating in Vatry ?
They say Avient was doing 70% of Vatry tonnage: 40.000 tons/year

(I'm so surprised that Vatry was so small in fact, nothing to compare to LGG, now it'll be even smaller, sad for them though)

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Old 9th Sep 2009, 13:55
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I have been assured that Avient will honour all its outstanding debt in Vatry, this was passed on to me on the basis that the only way Avient would want to move to Liege would be on the understanding that all its creditors will be paid in full.
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Old 9th Sep 2009, 20:29
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I have been assured that Avient will honour all its outstanding debts in Vatry,

Fine words Penge Flyer - but let's see if that is the way it really happens, it has all the hallmarks of a hasty retreat in my book, and historically that means Trouble...
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Old 10th Sep 2009, 07:19
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Official communication from Liège airport :
http://www.liegeairport.com/document...uropeanhub.pdf

The belgian press is saying that avient has a debt of 1 million euro in Vatry.
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Old 10th Sep 2009, 11:02
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what Belgian press??
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Old 10th Sep 2009, 11:08
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Old 10th Sep 2009, 11:50
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The magnitude of the alleged debt would not surprise me - all the assurances in the world are only any good when backed up by action.

All will become apparent. It's unlikely they'll be operating 3 DC10s out of Liege if what I've heard is correct.
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Old 10th Sep 2009, 11:58
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>It's unlikely they'll be operating 3 DC10s out of Liege if what I've heard is correct.

What do you mean ?
They are talking about 6 flights/week, which is not that much ...
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Old 10th Sep 2009, 12:57
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Well i don't think they will be having 3 x dc.10's, as i understand that they now only have 2 left flying around since that lost the BGW contract. well their move to LGG may mean that they receive some SAFA inspections which is not before time , as they always seemed to miss these at vatry, something to do with the French protection of employment in that region of france, perhaps the inspectors that were always found in the bushes in AMS waiting to pounce on previous African carriers can take a road trip to spend some time at LGG, that could put a spanner in the works of Avient's flying operations you best start cleaning your hydraulics Mr Smith, these inspectors pop up at odd times, and you don't want to get grounded in Europe too many times.
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Old 10th Sep 2009, 19:32
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Wonder what has become of the sister's French husband who is/was the manager of Vatry airport.

Did the guy retire, was he transferred to Liege, is he through family ties and obligations co-responsible for the bills that were allowed to be run up at Vatry?

If the figures mentioned for outstanding XCR costs are correct, no wonder Avient could fly and compete at the price and level they were.

Still want to know how the ex-DAS aircraft with Uganda registrations that were no longer acceptable into the EU, can freely and unhindered fly into the EU with dubious Zimbabwe registrations.
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Old 10th Sep 2009, 21:07
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Fogrunner,

Not 100% correct. FedEx have just introduced another MD-11 airframe (572) into service with another (573) currently in SIN and about to follow. Both ex TAM.

(off topic sorry)
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Old 11th Sep 2009, 00:28
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It is obvious the Liege Management could not do any press-release before the flights were effective.

This all has to do with the way they would have got Cargo B airlines from Brussels into Liege and suddenly found Cargo B not to operate anymore due to its debts and its bankers refusal to continue.

Since July , Liege airport has become more careful with the press releases, which is safer and avoids not to be taken seriously.

For Vatry, this move is simply desastrous and will hit this airport heavily.

But in aviation nothing is sure anymore.
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Old 11th Sep 2009, 08:52
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well lets hope that the airport accs dept at lgg are a lot tighter than they were at vatry, or we shall see some snow plough's chained round the wheel's quite soon into their operation from LGG...
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Old 11th Sep 2009, 10:58
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Still want to know how the ex-DAS aircraft with Uganda registrations....

Point well made AAL, and also what about the rules on principal place of business for foreign AOC holders?
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