What's the latest with AeroLogic (German 777F Operator)?
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What's the latest with AeroLogic (German 777F Operator)?
I noted that their first 777F has arrived. So, what's the deal? Have they hired people yet beyond those flying the first aircraft? I remember when their initial interviews were held and the requirements were Space Shuttle time and better... I guess German pilots at EK and QR who have 777 experience would have a pretty good shot at getting a job there.
I realise the economy is terrible and the freight market is therefore not doing well. I presume they will attempt to grow far slower as a result (especially with LH Cargo airplanes grounded).
Just looking for a hiring update if anyone has one. How many 777Fs do they have on order total? Here's the latest picture of their first 777F:
Photos: Boeing 777-2ZN(FLR) Aircraft Pictures | Airliners.net
I realise the economy is terrible and the freight market is therefore not doing well. I presume they will attempt to grow far slower as a result (especially with LH Cargo airplanes grounded).
Just looking for a hiring update if anyone has one. How many 777Fs do they have on order total? Here's the latest picture of their first 777F:
Photos: Boeing 777-2ZN(FLR) Aircraft Pictures | Airliners.net
8 firm and 3 options on order. Next aircraft due in June/July, currently no plans to defer or cancel orders. Almost 60 crewmembers currently on the payroll, with a more to come. Initial flights to be operated by augmented crew, allowing for hotac at final destination only.
Amongst its shareholders, AeroLogic is sometimes jokingly referred to as "LTU Cargo", owing to the large number of crew members from that airline, including the CP. As if they haven't already had a poor experience with former charter pilots making the switch to fly cargo. Anyway, whilst a B777 TR is not a necessity, being fluent in German is an absolute must if you wish to join.
Amongst its shareholders, AeroLogic is sometimes jokingly referred to as "LTU Cargo", owing to the large number of crew members from that airline, including the CP. As if they haven't already had a poor experience with former charter pilots making the switch to fly cargo. Anyway, whilst a B777 TR is not a necessity, being fluent in German is an absolute must if you wish to join.
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Thank you SMT Member for your details. I am curious as to why so many LTU pilots would be chosen if most don't have 777 experience. Is it because the CP is from LTU and he has a bias/preference for his former colleagues? Is it because many long-haul LTU pilots might want to leave Air Berlin situation? What factors are influencing the hiring of so many LTU pilots? Just curious. I say good for them if they are not happy with their current situation.
Still, it sounds like a very interesting opportunity to fly a very nice aeroplane worldwide. I would hope the pay package would reflect the need for experienced pilots but I am skeptical in this economy with many experienced pilots looking for work.
I noticed on the website that FO minimums are not too high - something like 1,000 total hours. Do you think they will hire FOs with this experience level in the near future or are all newhires relatively high-time and experienced? Any word about potential other pilot domiciles in the future?
Still, it sounds like a very interesting opportunity to fly a very nice aeroplane worldwide. I would hope the pay package would reflect the need for experienced pilots but I am skeptical in this economy with many experienced pilots looking for work.
I noticed on the website that FO minimums are not too high - something like 1,000 total hours. Do you think they will hire FOs with this experience level in the near future or are all newhires relatively high-time and experienced? Any word about potential other pilot domiciles in the future?
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Hey Guys
Been to LEJ last week.
I have to say that airport is very nice and so is the city of Leipzig.
Very lively and nice place to be...
Aerologic has got its HQ located near DHL Hub.
I've met with Director of HR and FlightOps Manager for my interview.
I have to admit that I had very positive impression. Very nice people and it seems like a nice place to work.
I was told I will get the answer within 2 weeks about the position.
Been to LEJ last week.
I have to say that airport is very nice and so is the city of Leipzig.
Very lively and nice place to be...
Aerologic has got its HQ located near DHL Hub.
I've met with Director of HR and FlightOps Manager for my interview.
I have to admit that I had very positive impression. Very nice people and it seems like a nice place to work.
I was told I will get the answer within 2 weeks about the position.
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They're up and running on 19th June. Good luck to them. 
AeroLogic takes off with low-emission aircraft | Eye For Transport | News, Analysis & Events
AeroLogic, the DHL Express - Lufthansa Cargo joint venture airline, officially started operations today, with the first commercial flight scheduled for June 29th.
With the delivery of its first Boeing 777F aircraft and the receipt of its Air Operator Certificate (AOC) from the German Aviation Authority (LBA), AeroLogic will serve new air routes between Europe and Asia, transporting cargo for its parent companies' customers
With the delivery of its first Boeing 777F aircraft and the receipt of its Air Operator Certificate (AOC) from the German Aviation Authority (LBA), AeroLogic will serve new air routes between Europe and Asia, transporting cargo for its parent companies' customers
I saw the Aeroligc's B772F in FRA parked behind a Jade's B744F.
Very nice view. I have already applied one year ago and I got only
an email saying I had not being selected for the first group and nothing else.
I am trying to refreshed my application but the website recruitment option seems to be frozen.
I don't speak German, but I have 3200 hrs DC10 SIC and 1500 hrs SIC B744, EU passport and JAR Frozen ATPL so I don't lose my hopes.
Very nice view. I have already applied one year ago and I got only
an email saying I had not being selected for the first group and nothing else.
I am trying to refreshed my application but the website recruitment option seems to be frozen.
I don't speak German, but I have 3200 hrs DC10 SIC and 1500 hrs SIC B744, EU passport and JAR Frozen ATPL so I don't lose my hopes.
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As I understand it from a chum at DHL BAH, the aircraft are only operating for DHL at the moment.
The route structure is here, no flight times though.
AeroLogic - Network
The route structure is here, no flight times though.
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How many pilots have been hired so far? What are the ranges of experience - all high time pilots? I noticed on the website that the minimums for FOs are relatively low - have they hired any low-time FOs yet or are they all relatively high-time?
Any word on how the former LTU pilots are now liking cargo flying on the Boeing?
Any word on how the former LTU pilots are now liking cargo flying on the Boeing?
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Looking at the route network it seems like this is being lined up to take over the World Airways shared DHL/Lufthansa routes (if they are still flying).Can you do LEJ - EMA - JFK in 1 shift?
BrowntailWhale from the ACW link it seems that DPWN are trying to minimise the negative publicity lately - US scale back - Thousands of redundancies in Europe. They specifically refer to it being a case between DHL Global freight (formerly Danzas-AEI) who would have used commercial companies for their uplifts-but it does ask questions like has DPWN managed to bridge/intergrate the DHL brand or have they still got the obviously expensive divide in Operating companies & will we still see 3 or more different DHL vehicles delivering/collecting from the same customers daily (express/domestic,logistics & air/ocean). Seems like it's still going to take a little more time to get it sorted.
BrowntailWhale from the ACW link it seems that DPWN are trying to minimise the negative publicity lately - US scale back - Thousands of redundancies in Europe. They specifically refer to it being a case between DHL Global freight (formerly Danzas-AEI) who would have used commercial companies for their uplifts-but it does ask questions like has DPWN managed to bridge/intergrate the DHL brand or have they still got the obviously expensive divide in Operating companies & will we still see 3 or more different DHL vehicles delivering/collecting from the same customers daily (express/domestic,logistics & air/ocean). Seems like it's still going to take a little more time to get it sorted.
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Ok, AL is different from what you have seen in LHITA, as AL is not an LH company, it is correct that LH has its shares in AL, but so they have in JetBlue, Jade Cargo and other companies.
The selection process is very fair, no DLR and no tricks in the SIM.
Would be a good example for LH Lots of exLTU and AUA guys in there.
My personal oppinion on this is, as the LH guys are right on the LHITA thing, they are absolutely wrong on AL, ist not an LH company and so "not their jobs".
more or less its has been an internal requirement all the time, just no they made it official, as they have many application from german speaking long haul pilots.
The selection process is very fair, no DLR and no tricks in the SIM.
Would be a good example for LH
Lots of exLTU and AUA guys in there.My personal oppinion on this is, as the LH guys are right on the LHITA thing, they are absolutely wrong on AL, ist not an LH company and so "not their jobs".
Just noticed the requirements on website shows german language fluency is now required for first officers, any reason for this change?
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EAM is 100 % correct.
Recruitment is very fair , no bad tricks.
Apply and you will see , actually they are looking for
pilots.
Im not sure about the german language , but it is a german
airline in germany . In other countrys it is also a requiremnt
to speak the local language.(Italy,Spain,France)
It is a nice airline to work for and all people are very nice.
If you have the right qulifications it shouldnt be a problem.
Everybody can learn some german.
Go ahead and apply.
Good luck.
Recruitment is very fair , no bad tricks.
Apply and you will see , actually they are looking for
pilots.
Im not sure about the german language , but it is a german
airline in germany . In other countrys it is also a requiremnt
to speak the local language.(Italy,Spain,France)
It is a nice airline to work for and all people are very nice.
If you have the right qulifications it shouldnt be a problem.
Everybody can learn some german.
Go ahead and apply.
Good luck.