DHL/ATLAS/POLAR Connection?
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From Atlast
From BELOWMINS, a few posts above, in response to Atlast:
Try to keep up willya.
Incidentally, POLAR first started by bootstrapping off of Southern's Certificate. Now there's a link!
Actually they both got started using Tower to carry their freight until they got certificates.
Probably the first and last thing they have in common.
Probably the first and last thing they have in common.
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Originally posted 28 April:
This is about a favorable outcome for Bourne and his inner circle, as engineered by Cato to end Polar. Period.
Honorable representation of his crewmembers is not on Bournes list of To Do items. Look for the following:
1...HARD press for Teamster representation (w/ Cato support).
2...Move for Single Carrier (w/ Cato support).
3...Subsequent vote to pull Polar from ALPA (w/Cato support).
4...Bourne installed at Teamster National.
5...Caputo/Alves/Allen Atlas Teamster positions.
6...Continuous blame of ALPA and Polar for concessionary contract from all of the above (and WhaleFr8) rings suddenly hollow with Atlas membership-
AND THE REGRET AND DISAPPOINTMENT WILL CONTINUE...
At least Dave will still be eating in the same expensive DC restaurants on the membership dime.
This is about a favorable outcome for Bourne and his inner circle, as engineered by Cato to end Polar. Period.
Honorable representation of his crewmembers is not on Bournes list of To Do items. Look for the following:
1...HARD press for Teamster representation (w/ Cato support).
2...Move for Single Carrier (w/ Cato support).
3...Subsequent vote to pull Polar from ALPA (w/Cato support).
4...Bourne installed at Teamster National.
5...Caputo/Alves/Allen Atlas Teamster positions.
6...Continuous blame of ALPA and Polar for concessionary contract from all of the above (and WhaleFr8) rings suddenly hollow with Atlas membership-
AND THE REGRET AND DISAPPOINTMENT WILL CONTINUE...
At least Dave will still be eating in the same expensive DC restaurants on the membership dime.
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hhhh..... Yet another grievance filed against Atlas today by Polar. Wouldn't be so bad if the remedy requested was not designed to unjustly take jobs and away from Atlas pilots. This one also will be paid for by the entire ALPA membership using an outside counsel. Does the Polar MEC not understand that they are merely the puppets of the newly elected ALPA Treasurer? He doesn't care about them. He just has some ill conceived idea that this will help keep jobs and NWA.
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Moving On...
Rob Rilly:
Consistent isn't it?
cptvac: Now your latest diatribe would fit the definiton of a brouhaha.
I will agree with
Of course it's not on his list of to do items! He's already doing it! Is it on the Polar MEC's to do list?
Your points ending "(w/CATO support)".... has he told you that personally?
Please share with us where you get this from after all, this is the forum to hear rumors/rumours.
They will have positions if the membership vote for them. We'll have a lot of very good guys vieing for those positions. Maybe some of our Polar sisters might like a shot?
This will happen wether Atlas go Teamsters or not and has nothing to do with Cato.
FOR THOSE THAT DON'T MOVE ON!
Let's, will you now......?
cptvac: Now your latest diatribe would fit the definiton of a brouhaha.
I will agree with
Honorable representation of his crewmembers is not on Bournes list of To Do items
Your points ending "(w/CATO support)".... has he told you that personally?
Please share with us where you get this from after all, this is the forum to hear rumors/rumours.
Caputo/Alves/Allen Atlas Teamster positions
Bourne installed at Teamster National
AND THE REGRET AND DISAPPOINTMENT WILL CONTINUE...
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Atlast your obviously a politicain, because you have the skills needed to ignore the facts. GOOD LUCK AT TEAMSTERS PLEASE JUST GO. Us actual professional pilots can't wait to shrink that SCAB LIST. By the way who cares who started ya'lls freight airlines. They were smart, they left the business.
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Moving On...
BillyBob521:
I believe you meant Politician, but no I am not. I don't have a college degree and I do not even hold a union position. I am rank and file which brings some honest consistency to this thread.
I'm having a tough time pushing aside the rumor and conjecture to find your facts, let alone ignore them!
I gather by this ill informed quote that you are not an ALPA member and not a POLAR airman because both ALPA and the POLAR MEC say extremely publicly that there is no such list. If you are a POLAR airman, then by definition you can not be a professional Pilot by quoting such. What are your true colors Sir/Madam?
Atlast your obviously a politicain
because you have the skills needed to ignore the facts.
Us actual professional pilots can't wait to shrink that SCAB LIST.
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It finally dawns on me now, looking at cptvac's posting.
Polar is scared about the Atlas move to Teamsters.
Polar's purchased (by election vote) influence of Pres. Prater to keep a thumb on the Atlas council by removing funding while inequitably providing Polar more council funding, the bureaucratic stalling of the merger, filing grievance after grievance using outside lawyers requiring more National funding, and etc... It will render the current behind the scenes sabotage of the Atlas council by Polar and ALPA National pretty much nullified.
Putting us at least back on equal terms again and they don't like that.
Heck, I would vote Teamsters just so I wouldn't be funding Polar's legal fees used against me from my dues.
Polar is scared about the Atlas move to Teamsters.
Polar's purchased (by election vote) influence of Pres. Prater to keep a thumb on the Atlas council by removing funding while inequitably providing Polar more council funding, the bureaucratic stalling of the merger, filing grievance after grievance using outside lawyers requiring more National funding, and etc... It will render the current behind the scenes sabotage of the Atlas council by Polar and ALPA National pretty much nullified.
Putting us at least back on equal terms again and they don't like that.
Heck, I would vote Teamsters just so I wouldn't be funding Polar's legal fees used against me from my dues.