The big merged L1011 thread
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Earl,
To take the engine in the shop and do the mod takes about 8-10 days including test.
However the mod only affects the 02 module so you can put a spare 02 module in the shop and do the AD on the module.
Then you just swop the modified 02 module and they can so in 2-3 days.
I just talked to a buddy in Amman and he says that the Luzair L1011 is still there clearing some snags.
How is your ATA thing going ? My buddy in Amman did not know about it going there.
GTTS
To take the engine in the shop and do the mod takes about 8-10 days including test.
However the mod only affects the 02 module so you can put a spare 02 module in the shop and do the AD on the module.
Then you just swop the modified 02 module and they can so in 2-3 days.
I just talked to a buddy in Amman and he says that the Luzair L1011 is still there clearing some snags.
How is your ATA thing going ? My buddy in Amman did not know about it going there.
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I would have thought that was why they had sent her to one of the worlds centres of excellence on Tristar rejuvenation.
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No engine AD's, several LLP's expired, missing or non funtional avionics...mmmm
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Air Universal, when they were operating TriStars, were straight forward.
Big bucks for those that kept up with the flow, and the salary was never late, ever.
Orient Air is another, nice folks, paid on time, with a large bonus.
EuroAtlantic is OK as well, so far as I know, always paid on time.
Luzair is the same, so I have been told.
Basem can be a problem, owes lots of folks back salary, which is why he can't find crew at the moment.
The TriStar 'world' is a small one, folks compare notes with regularity, no doubt about it.
Now, we are starting a new operation, funding complete, marketing guy in charge (ex-Laker number two) and I have every reason to believe it will absolutely succeed...especially with the folks I personally know, in charge.
The Tristar has a future in todays market, provided it is marketed correctly, in a niche market, and costs are kept in check.
Lets hope so, anyway.
After all, Lockheed made a superb aeroplane, provided it is maintained correctly.
Big bucks for those that kept up with the flow, and the salary was never late, ever.
Orient Air is another, nice folks, paid on time, with a large bonus.
EuroAtlantic is OK as well, so far as I know, always paid on time.
Luzair is the same, so I have been told.
Basem can be a problem, owes lots of folks back salary, which is why he can't find crew at the moment.
The TriStar 'world' is a small one, folks compare notes with regularity, no doubt about it.
Now, we are starting a new operation, funding complete, marketing guy in charge (ex-Laker number two) and I have every reason to believe it will absolutely succeed...especially with the folks I personally know, in charge.
The Tristar has a future in todays market, provided it is marketed correctly, in a niche market, and costs are kept in check.
Lets hope so, anyway.
After all, Lockheed made a superb aeroplane, provided it is maintained correctly.
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Saw L1011 TT-DAE c/n 193N-1101 last week in TSN. ( Tianjin/Northern China). Still wearing basic Bcal . Idle on the cargo ramp.
Reg does not leave any room for speculations who is running it !
Reg does not leave any room for speculations who is running it !
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TT-DAE is definately same as one earlier reported sighted standing at Ndjamena (Chad) where it seems it is now registered after a short experiment on the Kyrgyzstan registry.
Also recently sighted in Estonia.
TT-DAE, yes there can be no confusion whi its registered to.
Also recently sighted in Estonia.
TT-DAE, yes there can be no confusion whi its registered to.
Tri-Star pilots?
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Heads up Lisbon & Amman
Dear All,
N194AT has filed a flight plan. It is scheduled to depart KMIA (Miami Intl) at 19:00 EDT heading for LPPT (Lisboa) for an arrival at 06:29 GMT.
Expected route: VALLY1 VALLY NUCAR A699 SUMRS R514 FLORI R514 BDA NUMBR 3300N
06000W 3300N 05500W 3400N 05000W 3500N 04500W 3600N 04000W 3700N 03500W 3800N
03000W 3900N 02000W GUNTI UZ21 BUSEN BUSE7A.
What time GMT is 1900 EDT please, (I never was good at hard sums and adding up )
Hope it helps,
Be lucky
David
N194AT has filed a flight plan. It is scheduled to depart KMIA (Miami Intl) at 19:00 EDT heading for LPPT (Lisboa) for an arrival at 06:29 GMT.
Expected route: VALLY1 VALLY NUCAR A699 SUMRS R514 FLORI R514 BDA NUMBR 3300N
06000W 3300N 05500W 3400N 05000W 3500N 04500W 3600N 04000W 3700N 03500W 3800N
03000W 3900N 02000W GUNTI UZ21 BUSEN BUSE7A.
What time GMT is 1900 EDT please, (I never was good at hard sums and adding up )
Hope it helps,
Be lucky
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Is this the one from Accra?
http://www.airliners.net/open.file/1271973/L/
Some details on here http://cargoplusuae.com/
Hope it helps.
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Actually, Kitaro Kid, the airplane you noticed was a -100 series, and the old registration was EX-, not LX-...and yes we know all about this.
Pax operation, not cargo.
The 9G registration goes on shortly. It is a old TWA airplane, and quite a nice one, at that.
New charter airline that appears to be rather well funded, considering some of the previous efforts.
Pax operation, not cargo.
The 9G registration goes on shortly. It is a old TWA airplane, and quite a nice one, at that.
New charter airline that appears to be rather well funded, considering some of the previous efforts.
http://www.airliners.net/open.file/1271973/L/
Some details on here http://cargoplusuae.com/
Hope it helps.
Be lucky
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It seems it took off, climbed to 33000' but returned back to KMIA
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N194AT
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N.../KMIA/tracklog
Any clue?
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N194AT
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N.../KMIA/tracklog
Any clue?
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Good news and bad news
N194AT has just taken off from KMIA (Miami Intl) en route
to LPPT (Lisboa) for an arrival at 12:38 GMT.
to LPPT (Lisboa) for an arrival at 12:38 GMT.
N194AT en route from KMIA (Miami Intl) has diverted to
KMIA (Miami Intl) for an arrival at 08:38 EDT.
KMIA (Miami Intl) for an arrival at 08:38 EDT.
Here's wishing dry wings and soft landings for all involved.
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Is this the one from Accra?
It looks like it has found some work, so it might depart Accra, for Abuja shortly, providing all goes according to plan...and, the crews are paid on a weekly basis...weekly, due to the past problems with the owner.
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"After all, Lockheed made a superb aeroplane, provided it is maintained correctly."
Agreed, but then it is hard to maintain correctly without adequate OEM support
Agreed, but then it is hard to maintain correctly without adequate OEM support
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A little clarification please
Is N194AT the aircraft destined for Cyprus that started this thread?
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I thought that was supposed to be a freight operation. N194AT C/N 1230 is not as far as I am aware a freighter?
Please help me, its been a great journey through this thread I don't want to get lost now.
Thanks in anticipation.
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Anyone heard anything about a new cargo outfit operating out of Cyprus utilising a L1011 freighter?
Please help me, its been a great journey through this thread I don't want to get lost now.
Thanks in anticipation.
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ferrydude,
In responce to you comment on OEM support:
I spent over twenty years in L-1011 Product Support, retiring just five years ago. Lockheed still maintaines the L-1011 Customer Support Center where any TriStar operator can obtain technical assistance, spare parts support, service bulletins, ect. Since all the current L-1011 operators have obtained there aircraft used Lockheed charges for these services, first tier operators got technical support and service bulletins free, but the support is there if the operator chooses to partake of it. The real problem is that the majority of the current L-1011 operators are grossly underfunded and would rather not go to Lockheed for their support because of the costs involved.
To show that Lockheed was serious about L-1011 support they are currently in the process of moving the L-1011 Support Center to Marietta, Georgia along with all the support personnel.
In responce to you comment on OEM support:
I spent over twenty years in L-1011 Product Support, retiring just five years ago. Lockheed still maintaines the L-1011 Customer Support Center where any TriStar operator can obtain technical assistance, spare parts support, service bulletins, ect. Since all the current L-1011 operators have obtained there aircraft used Lockheed charges for these services, first tier operators got technical support and service bulletins free, but the support is there if the operator chooses to partake of it. The real problem is that the majority of the current L-1011 operators are grossly underfunded and would rather not go to Lockheed for their support because of the costs involved.
To show that Lockheed was serious about L-1011 support they are currently in the process of moving the L-1011 Support Center to Marietta, Georgia along with all the support personnel.
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Hmm, trying to understand how moving from Greenville, SC to Georgia is indicative of product support seriousness. Me thinks it has more to do with consolidation and cost cutting. Any idea what the number of staff dedicated to L10 product support is?
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Lockheed subbed out the spares support off to an outfit in Ohio called Hi-Tech.
They basically have not got a clue about this aircraft. They have about $60m (list price) in L1011 spares but never seem to have the bits currently needed.
As for SB kits etc they are a total waste of time!
There's a few independent spares support companies out there that keep the right bits you need together with wheels, brakes and other "no go" items.
That small group supply the RAF (MOD) and the others with parts and work together to help operators out in a pinch!
I should mention there are a few operators who are CIA (Cash In Advance) due to non payment for AOG parts.
It's a small world and everyone knows who they are!
They basically have not got a clue about this aircraft. They have about $60m (list price) in L1011 spares but never seem to have the bits currently needed.
As for SB kits etc they are a total waste of time!
There's a few independent spares support companies out there that keep the right bits you need together with wheels, brakes and other "no go" items.
That small group supply the RAF (MOD) and the others with parts and work together to help operators out in a pinch!
I should mention there are a few operators who are CIA (Cash In Advance) due to non payment for AOG parts.
It's a small world and everyone knows who they are!
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N194AT was purchased from ATA and ferried to MIA. It was taken there to be stripped to repair the L1011F that got damaged by Hurricane Wilma.
That freighter was to be be part of the Cyprus freighter operation.
It now seems that N194AT got sold to someone in Jordan (previously mentioned) who intends to do the HAAJ with it.
The freighter at MIA is still in limbo.
The "Belgian" was involved with the Cyprus thing so its probably got complicated as it usually does with his deals. (I'm sure 411A can enlighten the readers) as to the Belgian outfit!
I thought that was supposed to be a freight operation. N194AT C/N 1230 is not as far as I am aware a freighter?
Please help me, its been a great journey through this thread I don't want to get lost now.
Thanks in anticipation.
Be lucky
David
N194AT was purchased from ATA and ferried to MIA. It was taken there to be stripped to repair the L1011F that got damaged by Hurricane Wilma.
That freighter was to be be part of the Cyprus freighter operation.
It now seems that N194AT got sold to someone in Jordan (previously mentioned) who intends to do the HAAJ with it.
The freighter at MIA is still in limbo.
The "Belgian" was involved with the Cyprus thing so its probably got complicated as it usually does with his deals. (I'm sure 411A can enlighten the readers) as to the Belgian outfit!
I thought that was supposed to be a freight operation. N194AT C/N 1230 is not as far as I am aware a freighter?
Please help me, its been a great journey through this thread I don't want to get lost now.
Thanks in anticipation.
Be lucky
David
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The "Belgian" was involved with the Cyprus thing so its probably got complicated as it usually does with his deals. (I'm sure 411A can enlighten the readers) as to the Belgian outfit!
Is it Lanta Aviation? I think they also have a TriStar 200F stored at Kavala. A friend of mine made part of the team who made some reactivation works on that aircraft a couple of years ago, but I think they gave up.
Is it Lanta Aviation? I think they also have a TriStar 200F stored at Kavala. A friend of mine made part of the team who made some reactivation works on that aircraft a couple of years ago, but I think they gave up.