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Old 19th Feb 2007, 14:37
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has anybody else heard the rumor that wickes air are looking for loadmasters at stansted
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I had heard they were on the look for a new member of the team, though id also heard that the T&C's werent great, ie lots roster changes, working days off without payment, no overtime, though this is 4th hand info from a mate at Aviance STN. Hope this helps
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Interviews next week.

Helps if you have a Channex connection?

To replace Swanner whose made it to a desk job!

As for t+c's standard loadie pay + per dium+ ba travel +hotac.

u should clear 2k a month on a good month, otherwise dont get out of bed.

All initial training by Jet2,
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Still at it fdd cheers Ralph
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Honoury Essex Geezer Jete.

Mr Davis*n is now my enforcer, Wah Wah and Tasty send their regards.

Chock/Freewilly is now Vice President of the Channex 5.

PM me for the latest.
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Id heard that the salary wasnt as much as that, starting off in the very low 20's, with per diums around 250 per month, looks more like youll b clearing 1500k pm and not 2000k. If those other t&c's i was told about were true, doesnt sound like a good deal to me.

R there any channex loadies left, most had gone to wickes hadnt they?
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Old 22nd Feb 2007, 13:57
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Are there adverts anywhere for these positions?

Theres nothing on their company website....

Any comments from any of the guys that work there??
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Old 22nd Feb 2007, 15:01
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t and c

pay i am told is about 23k per yr as starting annual pay rise should make about £400-£500
per month per diem yes lots of roster changes aircraft tend to run late if you work a day off you get it back in Lieu most people seem happy there
who else are you going to work for if you want to be a 747 loadmaster in the uk
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Old 22nd Feb 2007, 17:34
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lhrloader, as wideloader points out 23k + 500 perdium makes a take of 1800 approx. Hong Kong,Dubai,US of A and some Mil and F1 contracts on B747s make this a good job to go for if you want to loadmaster. Its more take home than being a CAA Cargo Loading Inspector, which is perverse.

Icemel, you will get a call from Swanner if he wants to interview you, thats why you need a Channex connection. We all know who is good in the commercial air loadmaster world and who isn't. Chock takes great pleasure out of hiring Channex guys and leaving EXS looking for more guys to train for him.

As for Channex, yeah they still have loadies, but only on the B737 Newspaper and the odd ad -hoc, 1 is in LBA which is as much use as a chocolate fireguard and 2 are in STN, oh and not forgetting the Scudsmiester who is a legend in his own underpants!!

Currently training up a new loadie, but will he stay or will he go!!
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maybe my mate got it worng! any wickes boys out there care to enlighten us on how it all works?

Not the sort of thing you'd go for FDD?
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lhrl : Been there, done that, they were best years of my younger life
I was actually offered the job in early January by Chock.Also as Chock is aware, I earn far more than a line loadie at Wickes, so he couldn't afford me.Plus I get to be with some of the most fantastic girls who fly for the airline I work for out of Stansted. So no contest really mate, my quality of life has over ruled any desire to fly round the world.
I must be getting older and wiser?

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station supervisors get that much eh FDD?
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Exactly, I'll take a beautiful woman and my current quality of life over a bunk bed on a 747 and another bit of cargo apron concrete anyday.

As for the wonga, thats between me and HMCR!

Remember its not what you make but what you keep. Esp your driving licence eh Lhrloader
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Old 26th Feb 2007, 17:34
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lhrloader, take me hat orf to yer,

looks like yer mate at Aviance is spot on. Me Geezer went for an informal chat today and fell about larfin at the initial pay of 19k. Looks like Wickes is going lo-cost. You'd earn more throwing bags on the ramp. Told im also to expect loads of roster changes, so hes decided to stay in bed for now.

Nuther ex channex loadie going on Wednesday for chit chat, but they'd better offer more wonga or he's not interested either.
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where did the 23k come from then? Very strange! Problem is there arent that many good guys avail out there, as you said FDD its a small world! As for my driving licence paul, its v clean!
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From Wideloader?

I know a few guys there and it aint that wide of the mark, so maybe they were pulling a fast one.

Nah cant believe anyone would do that?

As you say, few good loadies left, why insult them.
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i have been watching this thread with intrest and havent felt the need to coment unitl now as this doesnt really concern me however

fdd was your guy experienced as a loadmaster
maybe somthing radical is a foot and they pay depending on experience?
you seem to have a lot to say about wickes is this sour grapes
going from a chief loadmaster to a station superviser?
have people previously below you gone on to better things?
are you sure wickes offered you a job or are you upset that they havent?
it sounds to me like you are lonely and mising out on the good life other people are having? still as you say all these hostees falling at your feet
must be hard to cope with you know what they say about people who talk about it all the time
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Old 27th Feb 2007, 16:51
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Nice post ABC, someone who knows me well? Sprat to catch a mackerel eh !

Fact: Interviews for B747 LM at Wickes happening this week

Fact: 19k Start Salary rising to 21k after 3 months training

Fact: £2 an hour per dium

Fact: Daily Roster changes

Fact: Not enough for my 1st loadmaster for him to leave

Fact: loadmaster nos 2 had to ask his mate to remind Wickes to interview him.Will need more than 21k to make him think of moving.Interview is Wednesday.

Fact: People get promoted and demoted all the time, some become V.P some become part time baggage throwers, as long as they are happy, who cares, not me!

Fact: Supervisor/Coordinator/Chief/Loadmaster/Loadie/Manager/Selfemployed
who gives a t~ss what the title is? enjoy the job and do it well.

Fact: Hostee is your term not mine. Yes Stansted girls I work with are beautiful and they are intelligent as well. However re read the post as it's a different airline I am talking about that interests me and read what I dont say. If you find them uniteresting, then I personally pity you. Get 3 mobiles like Scudz

Finally, try and be happy and larf, you've fallen for it. Remember this is just a rumour network afterall, and what I've just posted could be boll~x, maybe the dogs? FDD
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You dont think by abc's 1 post / joined feb 07, he's one of the management team at wickes do you?

Maybe one of the only things to come out of this is that the boys at wickes have been underpaid for a long time, especially when us loaders get more £££ pa, and sleep in our own bed every night?

As FDD said, quality of life is very important, and if there is a lot of roster changes / days off being moved, you quality of life wont be very good long term!
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As one of the few on the inside, I’ve been watching this thread with interest.
I get the impression that some of you think that you need to let everyone know that the job’s not worth taking. If any prospective applicants want to take your advice, that’s up to them, but if they can’t make a decision themselves then they’re not the type of person we want at Wickes. All the applicants will be given a full rundown on the post at the interview and they can ask whatever questions they feel appropriate to be able to make an informed decision on whether the job is for them or not.
At Wickes we have high standards for our Loadmasters and each individual has to have the right attributes to maintain these standards while working both as part of the Wickes team and on their own while down-route. We are not only responsible for the loading and weight and balance at each stop, we are the airlines representative at each destination, dealing with a multitude of issues, both regular and irregular.
I’m one of the former Channex Loadies and I’ve spent 5 years battering round Europe on night parcel contracts and it was a great way to learn the job. However, it’s human nature to want to progress and flying long haul to far off places was always going to appeal to me more than night parcels. It’s probably the same for some of my colleagues.
I’ve also spent time in the shed and on the ramp so I’ve seen both sides of the coin. I enjoyed running round the ramp, shunting pallets and driving forklifts but I felt I needed something more challenging.
Don’t get me wrong, if you’re happy chucking bags, that’s cool. Some people are equally happy sweeping roads as others are performing brain surgery.
I love my job and there’s nowhere I’d rather be than working for Wickes. It’s not just about the money, for me it’s all about job satisfaction, the fact that I get to visit far flung places that I would probably not see otherwise and it’s a physical and mental workout. Yes, the job has its downsides and the rosters do change, but it’s the nature of our work and you have to be flexible. For me, a few night stops in HKG, DXB or JNB usually made up for it.
In the 3½ years I’ve been at Wickes I’ve flown stuff that you wouldn’t believe would fit on an aircraft. I’ve worked contracts for the A1 Grand Prix that took me on a 4 month tour to 7 different countries and I’ve spent 2 months working in San Francisco. I’ve flown White Rhinos to South Africa, Tsunami relief goods to Sri Lanka and helped new airlines with their start-up operations.
Whoever is offered the position will be in full possession of the facts about the job if, and when, they decide to accept. The company’s decision will be made on ability and experience as it’s in everybody’s best interest to do so.
I look forward to working with whoever is successful with their application and can safely say that the varied work that we undertake will ensure that no two days are the same. You’ll find the work to be very rewarding if you’re willing to put in the time and effort.
Good luck
Matt
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