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Old 23rd Dec 2003, 00:07
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Emerald ATPs - for all you hat-eaters out there

The first one is here!

http://www.btinternet.com/~poolfc/N856AW.jpg
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Have to say... it looks quite impressive in United colours.
Maybe we will get to keep the pollished effect!!!
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Edited.


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Dada,

Do you work for Emerald or just pass your time insulting them?

Pity you can't come up with something more intelligent to say. I've seen a few of your posts and you seem to stick with the same phrase over and over. Still, I suppose 'Cut' and 'Paste' have their uses.

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So wheres the new ATP hiding? Not seen it up in LPL on the rare occaisions I get that far North.
 
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So wheres the new ATP hiding?
Blackpool.
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Rumours have it that they are getting 3 ATPs for passenger operations.
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Wont some of these airframes come from Southend where there are at least 8 ATPs ex BA awaiting sale. One has been despatched to the Philipines and there is also the BAe ATP parked there.
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Red face

HZ, the Skoda's are coming from wherever they are cheapest, none are from the UK, the pax ones are from the USA, ex United feeder franchise airlines. The freight ones are rumoured to be from the Indian sub continent, which could be true, cheap enough from there I would guess.

trevs, not a rumour, the company have said they are getting 3 pax aircraft.

The pax operation will make "Air-train" (see other thread) look professional... can't wait for the fun and games to commence... I just pity the punters who wish to fly to the rock with them... they must be maaaad.....
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JEM

Good luck with the ATP's

Perhaps I am a one off, but I have positive memories of pax operations on JEM 748s as a 'Flag carrying' client on domestic runs.

'Very good, nothing too much trouble, replacement a/c, to ferry at our expence'.

'Why o why' scrap 'KG, that's the only hate I have for them!

Having lost all PO contracts to the 'new jet consortium', they still expand........

So they fly 'Night Freight'

So they can take on 'Skodas' at a time when everyone takes the belt and gives it a good pull to tighten.

More jobs?


In the 80's when I started, people came to the airline I worked for with 'zero' turbine time, to move on to XX with 500 Hrs, or hit 60 and flew the 'Shed', still, no use for the likes of JEM now.

Wait and see, not an airline with big ideas, like NOW, just a steady employer, noone in the industry can knock that, can they?

Big Frt door (sliding), bulk load' contracts in hand?



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Nice to find someone with something good to say about JEM.

They provide a lot of people with steady employment, as you pointed out, something that several other airlines fail to do, including the infamous LPL ATR start-up that never happened.
 
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The only good thing to say about JEM is the people that work for it. Without the goodwill and never ending flexibility of the pilot workforce (and probably most of the other staffing divisions) this company would not be what it is today.

A stable employer it may be to a degree but its certailnly an employer that takes the efforts of its staff for granted and frankly cares little for them!

I wish them well with the ATP but hope to God that the training is taken seriously - You need a simulator not training on the areoplane! However Iam sure cost will prevail

Is Mr Janes going to treat the 748 guys decently over the bonding issue? Probably not but thats Enereald all over!
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Well said TC.

The way they treat their staff is abominable. However, the aircrew get treated slightly better than the ground staff, but then again MOB doesn't have an ATPL so can't claim that he could do the job better than they can, any day of the week!!!
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2 more ATP's to arrive at Blackpool on the 31/12/2003 from Arizona. That will then make 3 Pax aircraft.

3 more to arrive on th 04/01/2004 from Bangladesh this will be the first 3 of the freight fleet.

Pax should be in service February with the freighters on line as soon as all the mods have been carried out i.e large freight doors and rolling floors.

Happy New Year to All
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Night Freight 1

Only two ATPs coming from Bangladesh along with a great spares package
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So when are the cargo doors being fitted?
 
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I am reliably informed that the info here is correct as of today

http://www.jethros.i12.com/FLEETS/Listings/EMERALD.html

However, does anyone know where the additional previously announced 5 freighter a/c are coming from??

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Cant find any can openers in the Building at Emerald and Asda round the corner have completely sold out. Heard on the grapevine that any engineers with experience of fitting Sun Roofs will be given voluntary overtime in the next few weeks!
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Jethro,

Interesting page, more info than those in the company seem to have.

However one of the Biman acft you have listed is owned by Westair according to Airliners.net.
 
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Westair who are doing the freight conversions for Emerald.
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Both Biman aircraft were owned by the national carrier and should be delivered around the 9/10th Jan.
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