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Sir Stanley Bigh 23rd Dec 2003 00:07

Emerald ATPs - for all you hat-eaters out there
 
The first one is here!

http://www.btinternet.com/~poolfc/N856AW.jpg

hushkit77 23rd Dec 2003 03:16

Have to say... it looks quite impressive in United colours.
Maybe we will get to keep the pollished effect!!!

dada 25th Dec 2003 00:01

Edited.

:suspect: :suspect:

jafo33 26th Dec 2003 00:53

Dada,

Do you work for Emerald or just pass your time insulting them?

Pity you can't come up with something more intelligent to say. I've seen a few of your posts and you seem to stick with the same phrase over and over. Still, I suppose 'Cut' and 'Paste' have their uses.

Sir Stanley,

So wheres the new ATP hiding? Not seen it up in LPL on the rare occaisions I get that far North.

dwlpl 26th Dec 2003 05:19


So wheres the new ATP hiding?
Blackpool.

trevs99uk 26th Dec 2003 10:36

Rumours have it that they are getting 3 ATPs for passenger operations.

HZ123 26th Dec 2003 17:45

Wont some of these airframes come from Southend where there are at least 8 ATPs ex BA awaiting sale. One has been despatched to the Philipines and there is also the BAe ATP parked there.

Turbo Rick 26th Dec 2003 23:15

HZ, the Skoda's are coming from wherever they are cheapest, none are from the UK, the pax ones are from the USA, ex United feeder franchise airlines. The freight ones are rumoured to be from the Indian sub continent, which could be true, cheap enough from there I would guess.

trevs, not a rumour, the company have said they are getting 3 pax aircraft.

The pax operation will make "Air-train" (see other thread) look professional... can't wait for the fun and games to commence... I just pity the punters who wish to fly to the rock with them... they must be maaaad..... :mad:

boredcounter 27th Dec 2003 10:18

JEM
 
Good luck with the ATP's

Perhaps I am a one off, but I have positive memories of pax operations on JEM 748s as a 'Flag carrying' client on domestic runs.

'Very good, nothing too much trouble, replacement a/c, to ferry at our expence'.

'Why o why' scrap 'KG, that's the only hate I have for them!

Having lost all PO contracts to the 'new jet consortium', they still expand........

So they fly 'Night Freight'

So they can take on 'Skodas' at a time when everyone takes the belt and gives it a good pull to tighten.

More jobs?


In the 80's when I started, people came to the airline I worked for with 'zero' turbine time, to move on to XX with 500 Hrs, or hit 60 and flew the 'Shed', still, no use for the likes of JEM now.

Wait and see, not an airline with big ideas, like NOW, just a steady employer, noone in the industry can knock that, can they?

Big Frt door (sliding), bulk load' contracts in hand?



dada need not post, I know some of the ex's

jafo33 27th Dec 2003 18:35

Boredcounter

Nice to find someone with something good to say about JEM.

They provide a lot of people with steady employment, as you pointed out, something that several other airlines fail to do, including the infamous LPL ATR start-up that never happened.

Talking Checklist 27th Dec 2003 21:53

The only good thing to say about JEM is the people that work for it. Without the goodwill and never ending flexibility of the pilot workforce (and probably most of the other staffing divisions) this company would not be what it is today.

A stable employer it may be to a degree but its certailnly an employer that takes the efforts of its staff for granted and frankly cares little for them!

I wish them well with the ATP but hope to God that the training is taken seriously - You need a simulator not training on the areoplane! However Iam sure cost will prevail

Is Mr Janes going to treat the 748 guys decently over the bonding issue? Probably not but thats Enereald all over!

Civil Servant 30th Dec 2003 17:26

Well said TC.

The way they treat their staff is abominable. However, the aircrew get treated slightly better than the ground staff, but then again MOB doesn't have an ATPL so can't claim that he could do the job better than they can, any day of the week!!!

Night Freight 1 30th Dec 2003 19:04

:ok:
2 more ATP's to arrive at Blackpool on the 31/12/2003 from Arizona. That will then make 3 Pax aircraft.

3 more to arrive on th 04/01/2004 from Bangladesh this will be the first 3 of the freight fleet.

Pax should be in service February with the freighters on line as soon as all the mods have been carried out i.e large freight doors and rolling floors.

Happy New Year to All

Engineer 30th Dec 2003 22:15

Night Freight 1

Only two ATPs coming from Bangladesh along with a great spares package

jafo33 31st Dec 2003 01:07

So when are the cargo doors being fitted?

jethro15 31st Dec 2003 04:48

I am reliably informed that the info here is correct as of today

http://www.jethros.i12.com/FLEETS/Listings/EMERALD.html

However, does anyone know where the additional previously announced 5 freighter a/c are coming from??

jethro

Talking Checklist 31st Dec 2003 20:56

Cant find any can openers in the Building at Emerald and Asda round the corner have completely sold out. Heard on the grapevine that any engineers with experience of fitting Sun Roofs will be given voluntary overtime in the next few weeks!:p

jafo33 31st Dec 2003 23:30

Jethro,

Interesting page, more info than those in the company seem to have.

However one of the Biman acft you have listed is owned by Westair according to Airliners.net.

Frankfurt_Cowboy 1st Jan 2004 01:00

Westair who are doing the freight conversions for Emerald.

Engineer 2nd Jan 2004 15:24

Both Biman aircraft were owned by the national carrier and should be delivered around the 9/10th Jan.


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