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Coastrider26 21st November 2018 10:02
So WHAT was reported to HKCAD the fact a postholder left the company or the fact he lied about his flying capabilities?

Cool banana 21st November 2018 14:49
[QUOTE]e[/Originally Posted by hijack https://www.pprune.org/images/buttons/viewpost.gif
From a reliable source from the company itself. To shed the recent light of whats happening in this company, so people who are applying may have a second thought if this is the company you really want to work for.
About 3 years ago, a pilot from vietjet, Anthony Ortolan applied for HKE for the post of flight safety technical manager. Many pilots on the line doubt he was even qualified to fly airbus. A few weeks ago, he was being investigated for forging fake airbus hours on the left hand seat and as well as Gulfstream. Anthony quitted the job and left hong kong overnight. The company has not inform the Civil aviation department of hong kong, hoping it will wither away. Rest assure it will appear in the hong kong news.QUOTE]

View Anthony Ortolan's profile on LinkedIn, the world's largest professional community. Anthony has 4 jobs listed on their profile. ... Current. HK Express. Previous. Small Planet Airlines,; VietJetAir,; NetJets. Education
He has reappeared back in Vietnam this time as DFO for Bamboo Airlines..

pfvspnf 21st November 2018 15:17
Th LinkedIn profile of this guy is no longer available

ROW_BOT 21st November 2018 17:47
What nationality is Mr.Ortolan?
Nobody gets that kind of job without a ‘recommendation’ from an insider. Maybe a fellow countryman.
Aviation is such a club of back scratching bastards these days. It’s like the Freemasons.

Klimax 21st November 2018 19:34
Originally Posted by AdB29 (Post 10316350)


What exactly is your point about this post trying to deter people from the company?

It says more about the kind of person he was and has very little reflection of the company’s morals. Don’t get mixed up and act as if the company was in on it.

If you don’t have anything good to say rather keep your mouth shut.
Mate, you got it ALL upside down. Nobody is trying to deter people from HK Express airlines. Just some rather interesting details about the recruitment process within HK Express, for potential candidates to be aware of, being shared. No need to get so offended and mix up emotions with reality. What was being said was quote ".. The company has not inform the Civil aviation department of hong kong.." unquote. So what is being questioned here is the moral within HK Express airlines. A fair point, which you may not like or agree too, but that speaks about your own moral, not somebody else's. Who are YOU to tell anybody to shut up, just because you don't like the evident truth to be disclosed. I suggest you stay put in you warm fuzzy chair and take a chill pill.

volare_737 22nd November 2018 00:09
Guys I think its disgusting to put somebody's name on this site !!! Nobody here I think got first hand personal information about the situation. No problem putting your thoughts on here, but I would leave the persons details out of it. Anyway - just my personal feelings !!!!

mr did 22nd November 2018 00:40
If you don’t have anything good to say rather keep your mouth shut.
Are you new to this?

unstableapproach 22nd November 2018 01:29
back to the original garbled post by hijack.
from inside the company, CAD was certainly informed, full disclosure, last week

suggest you need to bone up on a more sophisticated way to malign a company, hijack. follow morningcoffee. He may regularly post misinformation but at least he posts in intelligible English.

Klimax 22nd November 2018 07:33
Originally Posted by unstableapproach (Post 10316943)
..suggest you need to bone up on a more sophisticated way to malign a company, hijack. follow morningcoffee. He may regularly post misinformation but at least he posts in intelligible English. ..
Why, it seems he hit the nerve - that concludes not need for any further sophistication needed. Perhaps there should ideally be a Thread specific to this revealed information. Anyways, someone here on PPRUNE asked how things are at HK Express airlines, and now they got a bit more of an insight. When you're a "manager" you're automatically accepting a responsibility and with that comes your name. There is no name shaming here, just a manager (albeit by name) being identified. It seems there are a lot of woman working at HK Express.

hijack 22nd November 2018 07:41
Did I hear bamboo airlines? recommendation? look at hong kong e... if they like you there's no need for recommendation. Before hong kong express he was at vietjet, over there he was just a FO. No LHS on A320. How did he concluded the job as a Flight safety technical manager and sign off all the documents?


Originally Posted by ROW_BOT (Post 10316673)
What nationality is Mr.Ortolan?
Nobody gets that kind of job without a ‘recommendation’ from an insider. Maybe a fellow countryman.
Aviation is such a club of back scratching bastards these days. It’s like the Freemasons.
that

hijack 22nd November 2018 07:44
French. I guess he got a recommendation from slowbus

Originally Posted by ROW_BOT (Post 10316673)
What nationality is Mr.Ortolan?
Nobody gets that kind of job without a ‘recommendation’ from an insider. Maybe a fellow countryman.
Aviation is such a club of back scratching bastards these days. It’s like the Freemasons.

hijack 22nd November 2018 07:47
It is not disgusting to put someone post onto pprune unless the company does something about it instead of letting him get away. No one is maligning the company but to let people have a second opinion on landing a job.

Originally Posted by volare_737 (Post 10316921)
Guys I think its disgusting to put somebody's name on this site !!! Nobody here I think got first hand personal information about the situation. No problem putting your thoughts on here, but I would leave the persons details out of it. Anyway - just my personal feelings !!!!

hijack 22nd November 2018 07:56
It's not about nationalities here but let me tell you his should be french. Its about getting people to work without doing a proper screening. Now his disappeared, and the management is just covering up their mess. X, G, R these are the people who are involved accepting him as a management pilot.

Originally Posted by ROW_BOT (Post 10316673)
What nationality is Mr.Ortolan?
Nobody gets that kind of job without a ‘recommendation’ from an insider. Maybe a fellow countryman.
Aviation is such a club of back scratching bastards these days. It’s like the Freemasons.

hijack 22nd November 2018 08:00
Informed? Have CAD taken his license away and inform other authorities? When, what and how? Spill the beans...... Please

Originally Posted by unstableapproach (Post 10316943)
back to the original garbled post by hijack.
from inside the company, CAD was certainly informed, full disclosure, last week

suggest you need to bone up on a more sophisticated way to malign a company, hijack. follow morningcoffee. He may regularly post misinformation but at least he posts in intelligible English.

HHChan 22nd November 2018 10:58
Originally Posted by AdB29 (Post 10316913)


You feel better now “mate”? I’ve said what I need to. All I say, is don’t question someone when YOU don’t even know the full story. I’ll return to my chair now as you kindly requested because clearly these lines have become popular, trying to put people in their place on this forum.

BTW I did not say “shut your mouth” but instead just quoted that well known saying that a lot of us know we should be doing. Key word was “IF”.
You seem to know something here..so share it or dont get upset with other's comments or views. Think your reply could have been nicer mate..cheers

SouthAmWings 3rd December 2018 05:25
Originally Posted by HHChan (Post 10317226)
You seem to know something here..so share it or dont get upset with other's comments or views. Think your reply could have been nicer mate..cheers
He answered from the comfort of his chair, from where he doesn't want to leave and is terrified of one day losing it. Only that trash in the Flt Ops management get so emotional about these things...

Big Neil 12th December 2018 17:09
Hey guys. I have a licensing question.
If one joins with a frozen ATPL but currently has the required hours for a full ATPL, is it possible to unfreeze to a full HKCAD ATPL as part of the license conversion process, via the LST?
Also are the EASA theoretical ground exams valid in Hong Kong? Or do the equivalent HKCAD exams have to be taken?
I ask because some airlines (present one included) do not allow their FOs to unfreeze.
Cheers

wagon007 23rd December 2018 02:30
Originally Posted by Mumbai_radio (Post 10337600)
Hi all,

Anyone attending to the assessment at HKE anytime soon?

I have been invited to one at HKA but the recruitment is on hold at the moment. I am just wondering if it is the same situation at HKE.

Many Thanks,
not so sure about it

hijack 10th January 2019 14:10
There is a news on South China Morning Post on Hainan Group in some sort of financial difficulties. Good luck waiting.

hijack 10th January 2019 14:12
Originally Posted by Big Neil (Post 10334184)
Hey guys. I have a licensing question.
If one joins with a frozen ATPL but currently has the required hours for a full ATPL, is it possible to unfreeze to a full HKCAD ATPL as part of the license conversion process, via the LST?
Also are the EASA theoretical ground exams valid in Hong Kong? Or do the equivalent HKCAD exams have to be taken?
I ask because some airlines (present one included) do not allow their FOs to unfreeze.
Cheers
Yes. You sit for I think 3 papers during the conversion. You get a CPL from CAD, when you hit 1500 or 3000 hours (Not sure you have to check), you get it unfrozen.


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