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That all makes sense. So... forget about it.
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Is that forget about it....or....fugedaboutit ?
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It's; FUGEDABOUTIT!
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Originally Posted by RAT Management
(Post 10833467)
It's; FUGEDABOUTIT!
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Restructure ???
While CX leaders hide in secret rooms unable to find managers who will lead "without" a consensus, the rest of the industry, worldwide, are progressive and far less circumspect than CX.
United Airlines sees the obvious 2 - 3 year forecast and makes a move... CX is still ensuring all managers have had their Diversity & Unconscious Bias training. Reality check, the following is just "one" airline !!! https://www.inc.com/bill-murphy-jr/u...this-week.html |
Originally Posted by Flex88
(Post 10836113)
While CX leaders hide in secret rooms unable to find managers who will lead "without" a consensus, the rest of the industry, worldwide, are progressive and far less circumspect than CX.
United Airlines sees the obvious 2 - 3 year forecast and makes a move... CX is still ensuring all managers have had their Diversity & Unconscious Bias training. Reality check, the following is just "one" airline !!! https://www.inc.com/bill-murphy-jr/u...this-week.html |
I have friends with around 15 years continuous service on Aussie base, stressing out on less than half pay. They have with no idea what will happen to them at the end of next month. They are watching as new joiners on full pay do a 777 aircraft rating & base training. No that's pretty insulting.
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Originally Posted by Busbitch
(Post 10836504)
I have friends with around 15 years continuous service on Aussie base, stressing out on less than half pay. They have with no idea what will happen to them at the end of next month. They are watching as new joiners on full pay do a 777 aircraft rating & base training. No that's pretty insulting.
These are unprecedented times. They made choices and now they need to live by them. This entitled attitude is farcical. I'm sure if the airline went under, you'd still be complaining that one group is more entitled than the other. |
Originally Posted by Flex88
(Post 10836113)
While CX leaders hide in secret rooms unable to find managers who will lead "without" a consensus, the rest of the industry, worldwide, are progressive and far less circumspect than CX.
United Airlines sees the obvious 2 - 3 year forecast and makes a move... CX is still ensuring all managers have had their Diversity & Unconscious Bias training. Reality check, the following is just "one" airline !!! https://www.inc.com/bill-murphy-jr/u...this-week.html |
Originally Posted by Busbitch
(Post 10836504)
I have friends with around 15 years continuous service on Aussie base, stressing out on less than half pay. They have with no idea what will happen to them at the end of next month. They are watching as new joiners on full pay do a 777 aircraft rating & base training. No that's pretty insulting.
Insulting at best, cynical and devious at worst. |
I think everyone is wondering why the hell they are training/upgrading anyone at this stage of the game.
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To think that all they are wasting now, they have to recoup from all the staff later, either by concessions or by sackings.
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Originally Posted by hyg
(Post 10836591)
That's exactly the problem at CX, dragging their feet hoping for a rebound. The entire management has rest their hope or basically gamble on a rebound that is apparently about to happen soon. Staff and their family deserve to know as soon as possible so that they can plan for their future
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Originally Posted by controlledrest
(Post 10833430)
That one post makes all of your posts doubtful and as is your mental competency to hold a medical.
if you’d looked at the first bills the pan Dems had blocked, and they had stated they would block everything, you’d see it was a bill to improve access for the disabled on public transport. Were you off sniffing panties and missed the news while they were smashing up the Airport? |
Originally Posted by cxorcist
(Post 10831548)
Not sure what your contract says, but mine is very clear. I expect it to be followed. If it’s not, I expect my union to enforce the contract, in court if necessary.
Obviously, these cuts should have been made 4-5 months ago, but here CX is paying know nothing “pilots” for literally nothing. I know they are cheap, but they are not free. You have to be pretty cynical to think this is an industrial play against expats while the airline fights to survive. Loyalty to non-essential staff is actually a betrayal of the airline as a whole in times like these. Apparently, CX has other plans, or maybe they don’t and are a truly rudderless ship. |
CX has enough cash to last another 18 months at current rates.
Management expects the company to survive and others to fail (Air Asia and HK Airlines are obviously on the edge of collapse). They then hope to make serious $ again. With no landing fees at VMMC and no traffic to slow up the circuit it is currently relatively cheap to base train. By completing base training on those already in the system they get a full type rating, whereas putting them on hold might require retraining which will cost more. The company is shafting the Aussi base as pay back for their push back during the recent EBA. |
Originally Posted by Pickuptruck
(Post 10837362)
The village idiot speaks again. If you looked into the details of the CX bailout you’ll see the Pan Dems Had insisted they would block the deal and force the company into shutting down because they want all big business gone from Hong Kong. Hence the bailout money came from other govt means.
if you’d looked at the first bills the pan Dems had blocked, and they had stated they would block everything, you’d see it was a bill to improve access for the disabled on public transport. Were you off sniffing panties and missed the news while they were smashing up the Airport? |
Originally Posted by controlledrest
(Post 10840094)
Management expects the company to survive and others to fail (Air Asia and HK Airlines are obviously on the edge of collapse). They then hope to make serious $ again.
The company just announced a 10 billion HKD (yes billion) loss for the 1st half of this year, and doesn't expect things to improve anytime soon. Read "deep structural changes coming" (aka laying off staff) rumours are 800 - 1000 pilots. The companies woes started many years ago, with incompetent "management" clowns treating staff with utter contempt, fast forward to the Trade War, protests, the china virus and now the security law, that will be the final straw. Expats are packing up, companies are shipping out. HK is fast becoming just another chinese city, and CX just another chinese airline, that will have to compete with the other big boys. It's going to be survival of the fittest (or deepest pockets in this case), and with CX already having to survive on handouts from the taxpayers, I'd hold of buying those CX shares. But that's just me. |
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