Just to be fair, many are understandably worried and reacting to a very frightening potential here. I thought the world revolved around me too when I faced my first furlough and I wasn't that reasonable about discussing it with some senior peers while having a young family, but I did survive.

Most all the DEFO's I've flown with have real heart with the job and some made sacrifices just to come to HKG for a better shot at life despite joining on COS18. With all the stigma those senior to them assign to it and sadly to some of them.

Before I throw a stone at them for degrading my "conditions," I'm reminded we all joined on and continue to accept degraded conditions to work here. Unless of course I was one of the first A-Scalers who fortunately got paid like a banker, which of course I am not.

Yeah freedom from CX servitude, just imagine...

Well, it was only fair....we produced more than banker w*nkers. (and obviously still do, and always will).

I agree, people are still responsible for how they react under pressure. I won't be missing some here when I bolt and I'm certain that thought is likely mutual with them too. I don't think CX entirely produced them though, many came with the material to work with and end up in checking and checking and beyond. CX just refines the bad potential, steps out of the way and lets them wreak havoc as unsupervised playground bullies. Bullies trying to overcompensate for some really deep issues, like faulty wiring or horrible nurturing while the capable and well-adjusted suffer for it.

Fortunately, some like NH for example get so butthurt when they don't get their promotion they leave, but sadly become someone else's problem somewhere keeping an ample supply chain of broken nitwits "trained" and coming. Many here should have lost their CRM license and been banned from the industry entirely. Many.