End of CX housing..
 

the nails in the coffin already.. now its time to get lowered into the ground..

Cathay Pacific to slash housing packages for pilots as part of ongoing cost-cutting drive | South China Morning Post

Well, there is three months before there can be any materiel change. I strongly suggest that during those three months we each individually demonstrate to Anna the effect of pissing off the pilots. I am certainly going to do my part. Good luck with the schedule over the next three months Anna. Best.

I believe those 3 months should be spent rearranging your housing situation so you can either afford to live in HK under the current HKPA conditions or leave.

Cathay don't follow rules or care about contracts, if they say they're taking it away then it's going to happen one way or another.

So how does Anna expect pilots to live in HK without housing allowance ?
If Cathay had used their brains 30 years ago and bought apartments instead of renting them, they would have benefited from the capital gain, and the housing allowance would have come back to them as well.
It's not rocket science it's just good economics, but as the fuel debacle has demonstrated they seem incapable of making sensible decisions.
Apartments that cost HK$ 12 million in 1997 are now selling for close to $100 million . By now CX would have a massive property portfolio , another opportunity lost

I wonder how much Anna's rental will be cut .? Oh how stupid to even consider that she would be made to suffer any kind of cuts

Well this should make it a lot easier for people to make the decision to leave

Will upper management cut their housing allowance? No thought not! This is nothing but modern day feudalism, it started with the bankers in 2008 and now the rest of the corporate elite are getting in on the game.

indeed. Corporate mentality took over

All this huffing and puffing on anonymous forums might provide some short term gratification for many, but in the morning the sun will still be black.

In the real world, this comes down to one single issue. Are you willing to resign over this? If not, then you get what you deserve.

Rather than resign, why not do something that union members do elsewhere in the world? If you lose your job at least you've accomplished something on the way out.

Agree with Oval...stop expecting others to fight your battles. Every one of us has it in their power to do something.

If you're too stressed to fly...and many people on this forum are clearly showing signs of stress...then lobby your GC to do something (that certainly includes you boys and gals at KA and those on a base)....and in the end if it is still affecting your mental capacity then see an AME.

So three years of CC is working out well then.......
It's like watching two people take turns at punching each other in the face!

how about a mass sickout for starters

What happened when the 49ers were fired? Nothing.

What will happen now? Nothing.

Mark my words.

+1

Air Berlin and TUI have done this in the past also. It will take more than wearing a red lanyard and CC to be taken seriously.

Every single ARAPA recipient should be planning on immediate stress leave. If you are not willing to act NOW to defend your contract, rights and family security, then please DO NOT complain after the expiration of the 90 day cooling off period. The company is gambling on us not reacting. The ONLY power we have is to demonstrate immediately how our goodwill (or lack thereof) will cripple this airline. Again, please DO NOT complain after the 90 days is up and housing is gone. It will be very easy to know who did and did not take action. This is the final assault on our contracts. If we don't fight back now we never will. Time to declare whether you have character and integrity or not.

43% on ARAPA ... therefore 57% think, "Phew, doesn't effect me. I'll be OK". As all too often happens, divide and conquer ... and it will work.

The first 60 days of the 90 day cooling off period (i.e. until 30 Nov) are during the lowest travel season of the year. Notice how they always have a go at us during Sep/Oct, or Apr/May ? They quote the diminishing loads and yields etc etc. That's because it's low season!!!!

The last 30 days of the 90 day cooling off are probably where I'm likely to feel most stressed, as the potential hardship for my family approaches rapidly.....

What percentage of spending on employees goes on senior management and directors, and what percentage of the workforce do they make up ?

It appears pilots get 3.4 times more spent on them then they would if everyone got the same rate of spend. How does the board come out ?

It's utterly pointless complaining about it here if you don't actually DO anything.

Absolutely, the problem is largely due to stupid managerial fuel hedging (aka gambling) losses etc for which you are now being forced pay the price. There is also the age-old issue of the arrogance of managerial isolation from penalties applied to lowly staff.

But whining on PPRUNE about the injustice of management or the current and past faults of the union won't fix one thing. PPRUNE rants aren't an effective industrial tool.

If you work as a coherent group where at least 80-90% of you act semi-uniformly, you will be fine. But in CX that seems an unlikely scenario. Evidently there will always be people 'philosophically opposed' to what may be seen as industrial action and willing to ingratiate themselves by working on G days or undermining their peers in other ways.

How you bypass this fact to rectify the declining fortunes of the CX pilot is the key to success. For sure if you are a late 20's or thirty-something CX pilot you must se the writing on the wall. HK is an unhealthy place for your family so why suffer that and reduced conditions when there is a rapidly emerging pilot-hungry market out there? Granted you may need to get out of your comfort zone but that zone may not be very comfortable in future anyhow, so why not act now?

There are highly intelligent organisers within your ranks. Think outside the box and act smart. Pulling up short of the chocks potentially isn't that smart. The question is what and how?

Perhaps for example set up the "HKG Pilot Placement Agency PLC" where you package and market entire blocks of current and experienced pilots pitched at the likes of Middle Eastern carriers (for those happy to live there) or direct entry positions to the mass of desperate new and existing carriers (Westjet's new Canadian startup, SAS Ireland, Air Japan, even Norwegian etc) where your skills would be a godsend and you could live away from pollution. Not a perfect answer but just one suggestion.

Thus, those who see a rapidly declining future in CX can take charge of your destinies quickly and move, courtesy of the reputation of your skilled peers. Those who wish to remain will benefit from the fact CX would need to reconsider knee-jerk financial penalties on staff arising from their own managerial ineptitude. Retaining staff would be cheaper than retraining hundreds of pilots so this would actually be a CX win too. A win-win-win! Act dumb and divided and nobody wins. Be smart and cohesive and it can work well for all, even those staff and managers too myopic not to see that yet.

Hopefully the exodus of pilots from Ryanair and the mess that loudmouth finds himself in will be a wake-up call to airlines that you do actually need to treat staff respectfully free from arrogant managerial isolation.

Goodwill is long dead... we should rather be showing the company how much “badwill” costs them when you have your own workforce working against you at every opportunity... goodwill is long gone may it never return

To be honest I struggle to understand why anyone affected would show up to fly if they really take away housing unilaterally.