Some S/Os were eligible to be fast tracked to JF/O so they will appear as F/O on the seniority list. They aren't DEFO.

Is there a hiring ban in place?

If not, then STFU and grow a pair.

The reality of the situation is this spineless pilot group has consistently allowed the employment of pilots under lesser terms.

S/Os
ASL
DEFOs
DECs

Don't treat these guys like garbage because you didn't have the insight to see whay was really happening and then lacked the fortitude to do anything about it.

Fair points, but I think it is also appropriate for DEFOs to know what they are stepping into at CX. They certainly won't get the straight scoop from the Company.

Agree 100%

What an utter disgrace that this company flat out lies to prospective employees (and current employees) to lure them into the job.

You mean like bases, 13th month, and profit share?

....we have a 'bingo'....:ok: (and oh boy is the complete list a long one)

I would love to know what they are actually telling people.

"Time to Win!"

DE FO status
 

Just wondering - are we to consider DE FO's as "Brushwingers" ❓❓

At this Time To Win phase of CX's evolution, things such as this are very important :8

I would call them "Gearpullers" as they are not good at anything else.

So anybody got any feedback on the DEFO interview?

Cheers!

Has an actual DEFO been hired?

Hard to tell on the seniority list with eligible SOs being fast tracked to JFO.

A few have been hired, hard to say how many though

I heard 8.

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I knew one from HKA joined this month, type rated HK licence & no work visa problem !

They don't need as many now, 2 second officers on long haul flights to begin.

Bound to delay the upgrade of B777 SOs

Qantas have been doing 2 Second Officers for years. Their upgrade time can be decades..

SO, No housing, No bases, No upgrades and No flying for many many years. Might be a few more junior guys heading off soon then

Aren't the elligable SOs being fast tracked directly to FO? They skip the JFO stage Don't they?

Aren't the elligable SOs being fast tracked directly to FO? They skip the JFO stage don't they?