From the Plane Talking article..
conduct most of its operations in a five hour period during which no-one wants to fly The writer of the article saw through the minor Jet* problem and realizes the bigger problem for the existing players. No additional night time slots as of NOW. Looks like they just killed the airport. P.S. BTW, its not just a 5 hour period. Apparently "overnight" is considered to be from 10pm to 7am. :eek: SCMP and Apple Daily: Start asking a few hard questions about how a bunch of whingers on an island that wasn't developed til 2 years after the airport was opened and another bunch who live in the town that only existed because of the airport construction can kill our 24 hour airport. |
30N30W. I have a few questions for you.
Firstly, I'm no anagram wizard, but how did you re-arrange your name (Jayne Hrdlicka) to spell 30N30W???? On a more serious note, you're argument is chopping and changing all over the shop. (my first clue that you have no understanding about international aviation, hence my suspicion that you're in airline management) Initially, you ask about the foreign LCCs flying into HKG, and do we want them to stop. No, they're using their side of the air services agreement, and we HKG operators use the HKG side of the agreement. It's a balance. Then you start singing the joys of another LCC finding its home in HKG. Totally different track to your initial question. If a LCC wants to set up in HKG, then go for it. The primary requirement is that they COMPLY WITH HONG KONG LAW. Hong Kong law clearly defines the ownership and management/operations structure required to be considered a Hong Kong airline. Pretty simple. Dan Buster is correct about precedent, but let's take it even further beyond aviation. If we can circumvent the law on airline ownership, what other laws can we circumvent?? I'll build my house in contravention to the building code. I'll speed on the roads. etc etc. Where does it end?? |
30N30W
If they call it "Hong Kong Shuttle" instead of Jet* would that make you feel better? By the way Hong Kong Express Airlines which uses the call sign “Hong Kong Shuttle” is majority owned by businesses that have their primary place of business here in Hong Kong and are headquartered here as well. Hong Kong Basic Law |
So sorry to those ex HKA guys/gals with J*hk almost a year on for quick LHS is vanished! No sign to obtain an AOC in near future and running business here is getting less...sigh!
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Come back. All is forgiven.;)
I gathered my treasures and followed the road With glamorous visions in mind I left some hearts aching, who'd loved me so strong I had new pleasures to find The treasures were wasted And pleasures I tasted were bitter to me in the end And soulless I sought, I woke up and thought I heard a sweet voice on my way Saying, "All is forgiven, come home All is forgiven, come home The Father's anxiously waiting, and watching the road All is forgiven, come home" If you are someone who wandered away Leaving more love than you found Greener pastures glowing that caused you to stray Along the road leading down There is someone who's love is forever He's the essence of mercy and grace Sweetly a small voice is speaking within Listen and you'll hear him say "All is forgiven, come home All is forgiven, come home The Father's anxiously waiting, and watching the road All is forgiven, come home" Come home, come home Ye who are weary, come home The Father's anxiously waiting, and watching the road All is forgiven, come home All is forgiven, come home All is forgiven, come home |
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No Sympathy
Nice link cpahka.
As much as I'd love to see someone put a commercial/competition rocket up the backside of CX management, I have absolutely no love or respect for QF's Jet* product. As far as I'm concerned, J* should be dissolved tomorrow and re-integrated into QF. But, that won't happen with the current CEO who seems hell bent on turning QF into a clone of Ryanair. The article also demonstrates the total lack of knowledge about the subject by the so called journalist. Jetstar's offshoot in Japan has been forced to keep new planes on the ground because regulators have delayed a decision on whether they will allow the budget airline to set up a second base in the Asian nation. |
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JetStar HK!
Virgin Atlantic axes flights between Sydney and Hong Kong | smh.com.au
Not jetstar Hk news, but.... |
Any news on Jetstar HK? Is it really gonna get going ?...
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Call me Nostradamus if you will but here's my prophecy for Thursday;
Qantas will temporarily suspend/halt/defer/shelve (insert appropriate catchphrase here) it's application for a Hong Kong AOC due to Unforeseeable financial circumstances/strategic review/uneven playing fields/global conditions/protectionist policies (insert another random grouping of words here) What it won't mention is the impossibility of ever being granted a Hong Kong AOC due to not meeting eligibility criteria. |
Why Thursday? |
Unforeseeable financial circumstances/strategic review/uneven playing fields/global conditions/protectionist policies What was the point of moving to CLK???!!! Park Island whingers would be feeling particulalrly smug following that decision. Lets hope you don't fly anywhere on your hols. |
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It seems any expansion at Jetstar Asia (Singapore) has been put on hold, but no news yet on Jetstar Hong Kong.
They still have those 100 odd A320s on order, so they've gotta go somewhere. |
100? No wonder hk is building more parking spots... Their website says 18 by 2015, but the same site says they will be flying in 2013.
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I put my bet that Jetstar Hong Kong will proceed with its ATLA and AOC applications, though there may be a shareholding change. Minus Qantas
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HeliExpress
Jetstar is a Qantas Group Company. If Qantas isn't a major shareholder then it won't be Jetstar. I would also be very surprised if China Eastern and Shuntack are paying a cent of the $4.4m a month lease cost for 11 aircraft that are parked in France. At the end of the day if the ownership of Jetstar HKG doesn't comply with the basic law then it has got a snow flakes chance in hell of getting up. |
Well I guess there were a whole lot of PPRUNE know it all's who got this one wrong:=:D
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