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Old 5th Feb 2024, 11:20
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Must be time

Now that the crewing problem is biting hard, it’s time for Kempis to start a rewrite of the handbook again for his Swire overlords.

How long before the MFF program expands thanks to a simple pen amendment. The huge benefit it provides on crewing numbers could solve that crewing problem tomorrow! After all, this is a company promoting single pilot ops, this is a minuscule risk in the airbus philosophy of efficient operations.

You think 330/350 is fun, add a 321 into the mix, I’m sure the CAD will oblige.
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Old 5th Feb 2024, 12:28
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Huge benefit? Sounds like a nightmare adding all those extra sims and recency flights. If only you dragon boys and girls hadn’t fought so hard against MFF you might be in the skies instead of entertaining bankers and their fancy HKD4k coffee budget…
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Do you seriously think we're not in the skies over 3 years later? The MFF trial in KA was in 2005, can't see it had an impact on the closure of the airline tbh. At least you now have that genius Greg Hughes back consulting for you. Only CX could bring back the person responsible for creating a pilot shortage as a consultant to fix it. Classic Swire.
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Old 8th Feb 2024, 00:19
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Well he is an expert in exactly what not to do. Maybe time for the George from Seinfeld play. Do the exact opposite of what Greg advises.
A contract, dropping flights you don't want into a pool then taking flights out that work for you, bases, temp bases. It's a long list of things that the rocket surgeon doesn't appear to like.
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Well he is an expert in exactly what not to do. Maybe time for the George from Seinfeld play. Do the exact opposite of what Greg advises.
A contract, dropping flights you don't want into a pool then taking flights out that work for you, bases, temp bases. It's a long list of things that the rocket surgeon doesn't appear to like.
Contract? Get a dictionary and lookup the definition of the word Contract.

You will never have a Contract in hk. We never did. We thought we did, but we found out we were wrong all these decades. The last document we called Contract was binned overnight and we were told to sign something else or be fired. All this was proven to be legal in hk. So whatever new T&C document they give you won't ever be worth the toilet paper it's printed on.

What they f*kkd in 2020 can never be unf*kkd again. Even if there's a complete flush of every single manager and even with a new owner. They proved via legal precedence an employment contract in hk is worthless.

Don't be delusional about the situation you're in.
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Old 8th Feb 2024, 12:47
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Our first clue was in 1994 when a Hong Kong court ruled that our contract was binding in honour only.

Senior managers celebrated the ruling. Honour being in short supply with Cathay management meant that this gave them the green light to begin running roughshod over their employees.
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