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Old 30th May 2023, 14:12
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Small Bonus, long awaited amendments to pay and block hour calculation incoming

It is not 6 months pay but I guess we have to be grateful to fly for the worlds greatest airline and proudly put on that Cathay Pacific hat and pin those wings on our shirt every time we go to work.

That’s why the top talent from Australia, Europe and North America is still standing on each other to get a gig at CX
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Old 30th May 2023, 23:57
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No one gives a ****. Any improvement will be taken away in the MPP adjustment later in the year.
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Old 31st May 2023, 04:28
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Originally Posted by Fridayflyer
......and pin those wings on our shirt every time we go to work.
When did they start allowing you to identify yourself as a pilot without your jacket on?

Even the AVSECO guards have wings on their shirts.🤣
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I still wear mine on me PJ's and all me T-shirts have pilots wings. Be proud Fridayflyer !
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the biggest suprise is there is no suprise?
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Old 1st Jun 2023, 07:24
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Everyone hanging onto the hope of an improvement is delusional! CX will give you one thing and take two. Every single pilot/CC should not accept anything but their old contracts back. If we don't get that back then we should take action. CX will just keep on eroding our contracts.
It's the sad truth.

I can't believe we have professional pilots in CX dumb enough to have hope regarding better conditions. You should not be flying planes.
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Old 1st Jun 2023, 08:17
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Originally Posted by Dragon_Delight
the biggest suprise is there is no suprise?
Oh ye of little faith.

The pilots’ cunning plan to get appropriate remuneration is foolproof. Do absolutely nothing but talk about low morale and low goodwill while continuing to show up for every rostered duty. Such servitude will inevitably result in having a superior contract to the one we rejected of COS08 plus 7% plus 20% inflation adjustment.

Not forgetting of course the company will never again issue a sign or be fired contract during the next downturn. Management are still recovering from the fits of laughter at the aircrew chest beating during the last contract re-write. Laughter is an unknown concept to them and they aren’t going to risk a repeat episode.

There’s 2400 of you.
It takes 2 members to submit a strike motion.
2 members to submit a contract compliance motion.
2 members to submit a training ban motion.

But no, it’s far easier relying on the members elected chairman of the AOA to notify the media of a handful of resignations. And heaven knows what the General Committee and their self appointed alternative chairman are doing. Have they found the door code to the office yet?

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Old 1st Jun 2023, 09:45
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Originally Posted by herewego75
Everyone hanging onto the hope of an improvement is delusional! CX will give you one thing and take two. Every single pilot/CC should not accept anything but their old contracts back. If we don't get that back then we should take action. CX will just keep on eroding our contracts.
It's the sad truth.

I can't believe we have professional pilots in CX dumb enough to have hope regarding better conditions. You should not be flying planes.
There you go talking about "contracts". It doesn't exist anymore. You're not working under a "contract" now and you never will again in hk. Cathay proved via legal precedence that an employment "contract" you sign in hk isn't worth the toilet paper you're signing it on.

Talk about being delusional.

Every pilot who has left since the contract cancelation has gone on strike, permanently. Half of the seniority list is gone. Doing much more damage to cathay than cathay ever imagined in its short sightedness. Cathay won't change anything back to better. To do so would be an admission of fukkking up. That's just not the colonial thing to do. But riding the sinking ship under water is.
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Old 1st Jun 2023, 10:02
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Originally Posted by VforVENDETTA
There you go talking about "contracts". It doesn't exist anymore. You're not working under a "contract" now and you never will again in hk. Cathay proved via legal precedence that an employment "contract" you sign in hk isn't worth the toilet paper you're signing it on.

Talk about being delusional.

Every pilot who has left since the contract cancelation has gone on strike, permanently. Half of the seniority list is gone. Doing much more damage to cathay than cathay ever imagined in its short sightedness. Cathay won't change anything back to better. To do so would be an admission of fukkking up. That's just not the colonial thing to do. But riding the sinking ship under water is.
Do you think every manager that has been rotated out give a second thought about the damage they left behind? Of Course not! That’s someone else’s problem.

Pilots should adopt that same mentality. If the company doesn’t work for them, there are a million other Airlines that’ll take them. Yes it might involve relocating but so be it. Once they move on it’s no longer their problem.

Be selfish like the managers, but hit them where it hurts; In the wallet. It costs them a lot more in resources to replace a pilot than a middle/senior manager or Executive.

And for all those budding applicants who are just after a type rating, yes CX can bond you but can’t enforce it outside HK.
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Old 1st Jun 2023, 11:48
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To leave emotionally or as an act of spite is foolish. Leave because it’s selfish or stay because it’s selfish. No one cares. To act emotionally is pathetic and weak. The 170 who are returning might as well have a big “L” tattooed on their forehead.

But to stay and complain while doing nothing is just as pathetic. The WhatsApp groups are full of them. You too should get the tattoo.
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Old 2nd Jun 2023, 04:55
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History has shown us that bad news is usually sent out on Fridays just as the office doors have shut.
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Old 2nd Jun 2023, 06:42
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dont worry, the bad news is sugarcoated with free near expiry coconut water!
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The Coconut water . . . . . you couldn’t make this **** up.

Unbelievable.
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Old 2nd Jun 2023, 09:09
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I don’t wanna return the Maserati I bought after reading your message please
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Progress Wan chai has the only real grasp and read of the situation.
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