H2 Legacy
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H2 Legacy
Well it seems that Swire shall leave their indelible print on CX and Hong Kong.
The leaders, Hughes and Healey have created a legacy that shall forever haunt CX as they attempt to ramp up their post COVID 19 ops.
Yep, that boardroom meeting in Oct 20 will make sure their impact is felt right throughout the business. The short sightedness of taking government money and cutting limbs to keep the body functioning is coming home to roost. Now the body is sick and any limb there to offer support is...gone. Best of luck in reaching pre pandemic levels after their legacy.
And the funny part is how well they thought they played the HKSAR at the time.
May their legacy forever live in Swine history.
Greg, enjoy those slings in retirement. Patrick best focus on the company cola.
The leaders, Hughes and Healey have created a legacy that shall forever haunt CX as they attempt to ramp up their post COVID 19 ops.
Yep, that boardroom meeting in Oct 20 will make sure their impact is felt right throughout the business. The short sightedness of taking government money and cutting limbs to keep the body functioning is coming home to roost. Now the body is sick and any limb there to offer support is...gone. Best of luck in reaching pre pandemic levels after their legacy.
And the funny part is how well they thought they played the HKSAR at the time.
May their legacy forever live in Swine history.
Greg, enjoy those slings in retirement. Patrick best focus on the company cola.
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30 Years On
Let us also not forget that yesterday was the 30th Anniversary of the beginning of the great assault on the pilot workforce. Since Red Oddington started that campaign the progress has been relentless.
Interestingly, Red noted to one of his Cricket Club pilot colleagues at the time that if the pilot workforce had just stood up for themselves mangerment's resolve would have been easily tested.
Do not be deluded into thinking they're happy and they're done cutting.
Interestingly, Red noted to one of his Cricket Club pilot colleagues at the time that if the pilot workforce had just stood up for themselves mangerment's resolve would have been easily tested.
Do not be deluded into thinking they're happy and they're done cutting.
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Let us also not forget that yesterday was the 30th Anniversary of the beginning of the great assault on the pilot workforce. Since Red Oddington started that campaign the progress has been relentless.
Interestingly, Red noted to one of his Cricket Club pilot colleagues at the time that if the pilot workforce had just stood up for themselves mangerment's resolve would have been easily tested.
Do not be deluded into thinking they're happy and they're done cutting.
Interestingly, Red noted to one of his Cricket Club pilot colleagues at the time that if the pilot workforce had just stood up for themselves mangerment's resolve would have been easily tested.
Do not be deluded into thinking they're happy and they're done cutting.
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Happy ??
You think Swires are "happy" ? They're leveraged to the hilt to the CCP so much so they'll NEVER get out from under their CCP thumb.. They've lost it and they're adjusting their losing slime PR blather to save face. Just like their new masters ..
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Cheers Patrick..
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Probably smart not taking the additional loan as it guaranteed the lead weight. Now the problem is find those staff to turn that EBIT around. No staff, no revenue, no EBIT. Ronald has been given a ship with the H2 harpoon in the side, something needs to change quickly.
Maybe another HKSAR, "help us please, we know you need us to make HK great again"
Probably smart not taking the additional loan as it guaranteed the lead weight. Now the problem is find those staff to turn that EBIT around. No staff, no revenue, no EBIT. Ronald has been given a ship with the H2 harpoon in the side, something needs to change quickly.
Maybe another HKSAR, "help us please, we know you need us to make HK great again"
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STW, you really are trying too hard. Be a management sycophant, we accept that is your position. Just don't try to suggest that anything to do with the management over the past 30 years is right or reasonable. They have reduced a once great airline to a shadow of its former self. There is no longer a career to be had at CX, only a job. One that is not fit to provide a reasonable return on the time invested. It is a travesty of its former grand self.
(I see you just deleted your post, the one I just replied to. You are a coward as well as craven )
(I see you just deleted your post, the one I just replied to. You are a coward as well as craven )
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The contract demise alone is no evidence.You ignore the macro side. Almost any airline is less attractive to work for these days. I am sure Pan Am in 1978 was a cool gig. Maybe try to make an argument instead of producing pointless insults, so much less boring.
I said I find it remarkable that pilots are usually politically right of centre, but the moment our industry is affected it's all about unions and labour exploitation.
I said I find it remarkable that pilots are usually politically right of centre, but the moment our industry is affected it's all about unions and labour exploitation.
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You need to take the difference between correlation and causation into account. The current state of our employer or our contract demise alone is no evidence.You ignore the macro side. Almost any airline is less attractive to work for these days. I am sure Pan Am in 1978 was a cool gig. Maybe try to make an argument instead of producing pointless insults, so much less boring.
I said I find it remarkable that pilots are usually politically right of centre, but the moment our industry is affected it's all about unions and labour exploitation.
I said I find it remarkable that pilots are usually politically right of centre, but the moment our industry is affected it's all about unions and labour exploitation.
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Yes, a perfect example actually. The market in the US is forcing airlines to pay more.If airlines in the US were able to recruit personel from global sources (as Cathay, EK etc are allowed to), the pay would look very different.
Another indicator for general market forces is the higher pay across multiple airlines in the US.
Another indicator for general market forces is the higher pay across multiple airlines in the US.
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STW, the CX passenger service is barely a shadow of what it used to be. That and the lowering of pilot quality and experience is not going to improve by paying staff less.
Sadly, I no longer consider it a safe airline for my family to fly on.
Sadly, I no longer consider it a safe airline for my family to fly on.
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If you don't work for CX then I would possibly understand.
Don't make the mistake of thinking experience = quality. I've flown with co-pilots with under 1000 hours and ones with over 7000 hours, the low time one was on another level of professionalism and ability was top notch, the other.... struggled and struggled. Sure not all are the same, but that one person taught me a lot.