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Air Crew Quarantine

Old 22nd Jan 2021, 05:37
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There really is a simple solution , on a voluntary basis the company places all pilots and families on say a 3 month temp basing in their home country
they then fly SYD - HKG , immediately get placed in a quarantine hotel at the airport or the Headland take min rest and fly out again .
This is all becoming an issue , Governments worldwide should have stopped all flights as soon as this virus became an issue at least for a couple of months
‘and this pandemic would have been much better contained . But continuing to allow flights from India to arrive along with several other high risk countries
was a massive mistake which everyone is now paying for . Having said that the infection numbers in HK are very low when compared to the USA UK and EU
To require freighter crews to quarantine shows a total lack of understanding of how that operation works
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Old 22nd Jan 2021, 06:59
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yes, freighter crew

Yes, main dog nailed it.
Freighter Crews are different. Plus the toilet they will use on the flight is not shared with passengers because there aren't any.
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Old 22nd Jan 2021, 07:50
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Trying to find a silver lining to all this madness.

If they do bring in this insane quarantine requirement, won't it mean that, because so many crews will be spending so much time in quarantine, that many many more crews will actually be required than is required at the moment, meaning there is less chance of the lay offs that some people have mentioned may be coming? Obviously I know there's other relevant stuff here, (mostly training onto a different type which would be practically impossible now, huge costs etc etc). I'm probably way off the mark, just throwing it out there. Maybe it saves a few jobs.......

Anyway, silver linings are becoming harder to find. I might just give up.
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Old 22nd Jan 2021, 09:08
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Hong Kong Government monitoring all our posts, Knock Knock anyone qualified and alert in there ?
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Old 22nd Jan 2021, 14:43
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Bueno Hombre

Ever heard of horse grooms, “flying spanners” and curators? It’s quite evident you know nada about freighter flying, mi bello hombre
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Old 22nd Jan 2021, 15:39
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And ever more numbers of PX’ing crew.
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Old 22nd Jan 2021, 22:31
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Curators and horse grooms are sometimes carried, that’s true, but it’s perhaps one flight out of ten. If that. So we don’t accept shipments that require them to be boarded, or change protocol in that case.

I’m pretty sure engineers when returning to HK, and for sure PXing crew, are under the same testing/holding regime as we are. Again, the risk factor is objectively much smaller.
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Old 23rd Jan 2021, 01:25
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And most Airbus flights aren’t carrying cabin crew or pax either.
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Old 23rd Jan 2021, 13:39
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I may have picked up the last straw so forgive me, but if a horse is carried on an aircraft a vet & a groom will always be with it... if one horse goes mad, it makes them all go bonkers, they then normally put it down or drug the f$#%k out of it... but there will always be someone with a horse, always.
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Old 23rd Jan 2021, 13:43
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Rarely carry vets. Groomsmen yes. In fact the only time I’ve seen a vet on board was for stud animals or a consignment of giraffes. !
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Old 23rd Jan 2021, 14:07
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where did the giraffes head go?
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Old 23rd Jan 2021, 14:27
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Baby giraffes. Vet stayed next to them throughout. In a sort of modified horse box thing.
We got a good stiff talking to about taxiing speeds, cornering and braking. !!!
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Old 23rd Jan 2021, 15:18
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Globocnik

so he wasn’t too impressed with your AB4 quick exit on j5?
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Old 23rd Jan 2021, 15:47
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Oasis

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Old 23rd Jan 2021, 18:41
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Globocnik

dammit. Was really hoping you’d say up their neighbour’s arse just like Carrie’s current experts!!! Hat /coat? On me way.
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Old 23rd Jan 2021, 18:57
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Utterly tenuous connection but

Many years ago hovvering in the mid levels (altitudes not apartments) in the Gulf between Bombay (it was then) and Sharjah transporting shoats in the lead up to Eidh al-Fitr we carried herdsmen / boys to look after the animals. Maybe they were not all as assiduous in their tasks and one of the little blighters found his way to the flight deck and appeared just by my left leg (FE in those days).
i tapped the very junior FO on the shoulder and informed him “there’s a guy here reckons he could do your job better”. As Tim looked around I swear the animal bleated on cue! Much chortling ensued. That very young yet champion aerobatic pilot was none other than Tim Barnby who went on some years later to “wrestle” A Virgin A340 on to the Heathrow Tarmac with one set of MLG stuck up. Well done by then Captain Tim!
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Old 23rd Jan 2021, 21:35
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DessertRat

damn! You’re right..

old habits die hard..
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Old 23rd Jan 2021, 21:37
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Starbear

you didn’t call him up to say they the sheep would’ve done a better job?
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Old 23rd Jan 2021, 23:16
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Back to the proposed quarantine coming in.....

If the government were not sure all they have to do is check our "famous" freighter BTC's social media and they'll have their ammo. Can this bloke please put down the camera phone! Lands from a flight, off to a big party mixing with other fleets & crews and then the next day back flying! No masks, No distancing and certainly not within Medical Surveillance whilst parts of HKG and perhaps some of his followers are being locked down in Jordan ect

Wouldn't surprise me if SCMP journo DL follows him and all thousand or so locals who now believe that daft article. Bravo!
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Old 23rd Jan 2021, 23:55
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If this is true then he should be fired, immediately.
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