Air Crew Quarantine
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There is nothing wrong with waiting for a more proven vaccine. I know people who’ve had the Chinese vaccine in the sandpit and had side effects that were less than desirable. One case was back in the hospital with a drip. I’m sure if the company says we must have it then there will be no choice but I would hold off for the proven vaccines given the option.
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Have the HK government said they are only using the sinoVaccine?
By comparison, Australia hedged its bets and ordered supplies from 3 or 4 sources, the Pfizer, the AstraZeneca, the Novovax and i think also a Covax vaccine, but that’s not as well developed.
It seems odd that HK being as well developed and relatively affluent from a GDP perspective, would not have a number of suppliers.
By comparison, Australia hedged its bets and ordered supplies from 3 or 4 sources, the Pfizer, the AstraZeneca, the Novovax and i think also a Covax vaccine, but that’s not as well developed.
It seems odd that HK being as well developed and relatively affluent from a GDP perspective, would not have a number of suppliers.
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Hong Kong has struck deals to purchase 22.5 million doses of Covid-19 vaccines, with 7.5 million shots each coming from three suppliers: Sinovac Biotech; Fosun Pharma which offered the vaccine co-developed by Germany’s BioNTech and US-based Pfizer; and British-Swedish firm AstraZeneca.
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Politics comes first in HK before the peoples health. The current leaders of HK sure are proud muppets, ready to jump whenever Beijing tells them too.
Politics comes first in HK before the peoples health. The current leaders of HK sure are proud muppets, ready to jump whenever Beijing tells them too.
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Your magic chinese vaccine has NOT been approved by the FAA, nor EASA, which says something.
Once you’ve had Sinopharm, you can’t go back and get Pfizer or other western approved vaccines.
If there’s a chance that my flying licence might be jeopardised, I’d rather wait for the approved vaccine, thank you very much.
Once you’ve had Sinopharm, you can’t go back and get Pfizer or other western approved vaccines.
If there’s a chance that my flying licence might be jeopardised, I’d rather wait for the approved vaccine, thank you very much.
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Not sure why you are being such a knob on a rumour network about what people say. Problems in the home? Scared you might get chopped so the anxiety is coming out?
The FAA/EASA/CAA/CAAD are all vastly superior to your keyboard knowledge in the medical field. They have their own medical teams who can determine the effect on a pilot that certain medications have and will not approve things they believe to had adverse effects. The Chinese vaccine has a 73 item long list of adverse effects, no other vaccine has one this long. It's no wonder many people are winding up with huge problems. Remember that these vaccines are approved for emergency use. They have not had the full testing regime put through. So Oli please just wait till the day you lose your licence for taking the wrong vaccine and have to get it back. Then you'll understand why you can't rush this for certain fields.
The FAA/EASA/CAA/CAAD are all vastly superior to your keyboard knowledge in the medical field. They have their own medical teams who can determine the effect on a pilot that certain medications have and will not approve things they believe to had adverse effects. The Chinese vaccine has a 73 item long list of adverse effects, no other vaccine has one this long. It's no wonder many people are winding up with huge problems. Remember that these vaccines are approved for emergency use. They have not had the full testing regime put through. So Oli please just wait till the day you lose your licence for taking the wrong vaccine and have to get it back. Then you'll understand why you can't rush this for certain fields.
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Words fail me to describe my contempt for the HK gov... First they announce publicly and obviously without any idea of the consequences a quarantine "plan", with total disregard for the included human sacrifices of air crew, the catastrophic impact for airlines. And then: nothing. No date, no statement, no explanation, just absolutely nothing at all. Unbelievable.
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You clearly don’t live in any part of Europe that I do my friend. Not being able to go to friend’s/relatives’ homes or meet in public? Must be the Europa moon of Jupiter you’re talking about.
You clearly don’t live in any part of Europe that I do my friend. Not being able to go to friend’s/relatives’ homes or meet in public? Must be the Europa moon of Jupiter you’re talking about.
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What is the latest regarding local based aircrew quarantine? As I understand it the 21 day quarantine only applies to aircrew who have visited Extremely High Risk areas like U.K., S.A. and Brazil, otherwise just a COVID test at the airport upon arrival and a 24 hour lockdown at the Sky City or company designated 24 lockdown hotel? https://www.coronavirus.gov.hk/eng/e...rsons-faq.html
Wyoming, unfortunately no further info.
The proposal was for locally based aircrew to quarantine for 14 days in hotel upon arrival from anything other than a turnaround flight. Was expected to commence from around Feb 12, but the trail has gone cold. Presumably some heavy lobbying occurring behind the scenes to steer off this latest act of lunacy.
All the best.
The proposal was for locally based aircrew to quarantine for 14 days in hotel upon arrival from anything other than a turnaround flight. Was expected to commence from around Feb 12, but the trail has gone cold. Presumably some heavy lobbying occurring behind the scenes to steer off this latest act of lunacy.
All the best.
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Been announced. Included turn around flights with passengers. https://www.info.gov.hk/gia/general/...1020500723.htm
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I may be reading incorrectly but I don’t believe it to be turn around flights. Only layovers.
I may be reading incorrectly but I don’t believe it to be turn around flights. Only layovers.
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- All air crew members must be subject to "test-and-hold" arrangement (i.e. undergo testing and wait for the result at Hong Kong International Airport (HKIA) or designated location)
- All air crew members who have stayed in any places outside China during the 21 days prior to arrival in Hong Kong (but have not stayed in Group A specified places under the Prevention and Control of Disease (Regulation of Cross-boundary Conveyances and Travellers) Regulation (Cap. 599H) (hereinafter "Group A specified places")) must self-isolate at the airport hotel (i.e. Headland Hotel or Hong Kong SkyCity Marriott Hotel) arranged by airlines until their next duty flight after undergoing testing
- If the aforementioned air crew members are local based crew who wish to leave the airport area, they must self-isolate at designated quarantine hotel for 14 days before entering the local community and be subject to testing on the 12th day following their arrival. They must also be subject to seven-day medical surveillance afterwards, with testing on the 15th and 19th or 20th day following their arrival, before operating again. Meanwhile, freight crew who have laid over in Anchorage, Alaska, of the United States of America, who are subject to closed-loop management in segregation from the local community (see Note) during the layover, will be exempted and they will not be subject to self-isolation at designated quarantine hotel. They will still be subject to 21-day medical surveillance
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About $2000 HKG per day for a Capt, much less for the FO and SO. An insulting joke. After forcing POS18 on us (where temporary concessions would probably have been agreed to) I would consider anyone agreeing to these mega patterns an complete idiot and not fit to hold a licence.
Why not use the based crew? If there aren't enough of them then temp base HKG crew.
Why not use the based crew? If there aren't enough of them then temp base HKG crew.
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And the typical CX ‘rush, rush, rush’ 4 day deadline to decide and announced at midnight on a Friday night 🙄
Might just sit on my hands for this one. Was hoping for more incentive but they’ve made a business decision not to make it worth our while.
Might just sit on my hands for this one. Was hoping for more incentive but they’ve made a business decision not to make it worth our while.
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