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Ops Normal - incompetence

Old 28th May 2020, 21:49
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Ops Normal - incompetence

Whilst some lose recency others are working overtime. If the company was competent this wouldn't be the case.

As always they look to cut costs, rather than add value by managing properly. In this case its rostering. CMP won't improve things as the company can't take their hands off the levers and let someone truly competent implement a full system.
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Old 28th May 2020, 22:57
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Originally Posted by controlledrest View Post
Whilst some lose recency others are working overtime. If the company was competent this wouldn't be the case.

As always they look to cut costs, rather than add value by managing properly. In this case its rostering. CMP won't improve things as the company can't take their hands off the levers and let someone truly competent implement a full system.
Are you surprised? I would be surprised if it were any other way. Rather than manage, much less lead, they are totally preoccupied by figuring out how to screw those at the pointy end. Some things never change.
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Old 28th May 2020, 23:38
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Thousands of pilots unemployed or furloughed, and thousands more will be.

Meanwhile you guys are kept on full pay and complain about overtime and our evil and incompetent employer.







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Old 28th May 2020, 23:53
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You might like to have a chat with some of our Aussie brethren before pontificating about "full pay" STW.
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Old 29th May 2020, 00:00
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Originally Posted by Sam Ting Wong View Post
Thousands of pilots unemployed or furloughed, and thousands more will be.

Meanwhile you guys are kept on full pay and complain about overtime and our evil and incompetent employer.
STW, it appears you didn't understand what I wrote. My 'complaint ' is that some pilots are doing overtime and getting close to double pay, whereas other pilots who are still receiving pay are doing no flying. This is a waste of money when cash flow really matters.

I am doing stuff all flying, so my pay is down without the Hourly Duty Pay.

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Old 29th May 2020, 00:04
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Originally Posted by Sam Ting Wong View Post
Thousands of pilots unemployed or furloughed, and thousands more will be.

Meanwhile you guys are kept on full pay and complain about overtime and our evil and incompetent employer.
Seems every time someone verbalises re the incompetent and wasteful CX managers there's always some who slide out from under a rock and criticise them for doing so ?? Usually the bend over and take it type..
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Old 29th May 2020, 01:51
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Originally Posted by Sam Ting Wong View Post
Thousands of pilots unemployed or furloughed, and thousands more will be.

Meanwhile you guys are kept on full pay and complain about overtime and our evil and incompetent employer.
This is why you would be perfect for the third floor. They hire FOs you know? You might have to start out on that scruffy CRM course, but Im sure you could talk your way up there.
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Old 6th Jun 2020, 17:28
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I am doing stuff all flying, so my pay is down about 30%.
How can you be down 30% unless you are on CoS18?
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Old 7th Jun 2020, 07:10
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How can you be down 30% unless you are on CoS18?
Uhhh, maybe hes on a base. 80% salary plus no HDP (10%)... I think that rounds down to 30%.
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Old 7th Jun 2020, 07:15
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Uhhh, maybe hes on a base. 80% salary plus no HDP (10%)... I think that rounds down to 30%.
He said his family lives in HK so I doubt it?
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