Freighter S/O
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From: Polar Route
Dragon and Cathay are offering the same product.
HKE is doing the 0300 am to Manila from the remote terminal.
HKE has neither the product, nor the slots or the aircraft. The airport is full. The chairman says HKE is serving a niche market, stopped the expansion and just cancelled the aircraft on order.
What else do you guys need?
HKE is doing the 0300 am to Manila from the remote terminal.
HKE has neither the product, nor the slots or the aircraft. The airport is full. The chairman says HKE is serving a niche market, stopped the expansion and just cancelled the aircraft on order.
What else do you guys need?
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From: HK-CRoC
DOG
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A quick google search found it (HKCAD P2X). HKCAD Requirements Document – Pilot Licences & Associated Ratings Sect 9.6.2 last sentence “The holder of a restricted rating will be expected to be qualified for an unrestricted rating within a period of 5 years since the endorsement of a P2X rating.”
Last edited by CXDOG; 31st July 2019 at 02:47.
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From: Asia
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It ain’t CX BS. When I was an SO years ago I actually read the CAD regs. It’s in there you twit 😂
A quick google search found it (HKCAD P2X). HKCAD Requirements Document – Pilot Licences & Associated Ratings Sect 9.6.2 last sentence “The holder of a restricted rating will be expected to be qualified for an unrestricted rating within a period of 5 years since the endorsement of a P2X rating.”
I’m sorry to dampen your enthusiasm, but your post was almost endearing. Anyone with airline experience will know that a phrase like ‘expected to be’ is equivalent to ‘at company discretion’, which means the company will do whatever they want to, whenever they want to, preferably from the aft part of your anatomy, if it will save them money or just because they can.
It ain’t CX BS. When I was an SO years ago I actually read the CAD regs. It’s in there you twit 😂
A quick google search found it (HKCAD P2X). HKCAD Requirements Document – Pilot Licences & Associated Ratings Sect 9.6.2 last sentence “The holder of a restricted rating will be expected to be qualified for an unrestricted rating within a period of 5 years since the endorsement of a P2X rating.”
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From: one country, one system
So, just to summarise
pilot shortage
mass exodus ( looming/already happening)
HKE taking our routes
7.5 years to J/FO
S/O x 2 on long haul
Pos18 for all
RA55 will stay on to 65
Swire will sell Cathay to China
China will march in
Fuel Hedge is a big swindle to funnel money to Swire
Hole in the ground because of lack of experience
747 is the worst possible punishment/ life sentence
pollution is killing us all
pilot shortage
mass exodus ( looming/already happening)
HKE taking our routes
7.5 years to J/FO
S/O x 2 on long haul
Pos18 for all
RA55 will stay on to 65
Swire will sell Cathay to China
China will march in
Fuel Hedge is a big swindle to funnel money to Swire
Hole in the ground because of lack of experience
747 is the worst possible punishment/ life sentence
pollution is killing us all
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From: Polar Route
So, just to summarise
pilot shortage
mass exodus ( looming/already happening)
HKE taking our routes
7.5 years to J/FO
S/O x 2 on long haul
Pos18 for all
RA55 will stay on to 65
Swire will sell Cathay to China
China will march in
Fuel Hedge is a big swindle to funnel money to Swire
Hole in the ground because of lack of experience
747 is the worst possible punishment/ life sentence
pollution is killing us all
pilot shortage
mass exodus ( looming/already happening)
HKE taking our routes
7.5 years to J/FO
S/O x 2 on long haul
Pos18 for all
RA55 will stay on to 65
Swire will sell Cathay to China
China will march in
Fuel Hedge is a big swindle to funnel money to Swire
Hole in the ground because of lack of experience
747 is the worst possible punishment/ life sentence
pollution is killing us all
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From: Polar Route
Last edited by cxorcist; 31st July 2019 at 22:12.
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From: UK
So, just to summarise
pilot shortage
mass exodus ( looming/already happening)
HKE taking our routes
7.5 years to J/FO
S/O x 2 on long haul
Pos18 for all
RA55 will stay on to 65
Swire will sell Cathay to China
China will march in
Fuel Hedge is a big swindle to funnel money to Swire
Hole in the ground because of lack of experience
747 is the worst possible punishment/ life sentence
pollution is killing us all
pilot shortage
mass exodus ( looming/already happening)
HKE taking our routes
7.5 years to J/FO
S/O x 2 on long haul
Pos18 for all
RA55 will stay on to 65
Swire will sell Cathay to China
China will march in
Fuel Hedge is a big swindle to funnel money to Swire
Hole in the ground because of lack of experience
747 is the worst possible punishment/ life sentence
pollution is killing us all
Did my stint in CX. Effectively used it as a CV builder before going home a few years back. Never been happier. Most of the Armageddon scenarios probably wont actually happen but bear in mind it IS a relentlessly negative place to work and, for some, a borderline depressing experience. HK isn’t a walk in the park either. And financially it’s even worse on the D Scale. These days with a licence and a pulse you almost certainly have better options than SO at CX.
As you may gather, I still pop in here occasionally to remind other potential victims of the above. I consider it my own way of paying it back 🙂
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From: crewbag
You forgot to add that we’re all alcoholics too according to AvMed.
Did my stint in CX. Effectively used it as a CV builder before going home a few years back. Never been happier. Most of the Armageddon scenarios probably wont actually happen but bear in mind it IS a relentlessly negative place to work and, for some, a borderline depressing experience. HK isn’t a walk in the park either. And financially it’s even worse on the D Scale. These days with a licence and a pulse you almost certainly have better options than SO at CX.
As you may gather, I still pop in here occasionally to remind other potential victims of the above. I consider it my own way of paying it back 🙂
The only reason to join CX is if no carriers at home will pick you up. Which in itself says enough.
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From: HK
" The holder of a restricted rating will be expected to be qualified for an unrestricted rating within a period of 5 years since the endorsement of a P2X rating"
Key word being "expected".
On that same note, I'm "expecting" to receive a pay adjustment in line with current inflation, plus compounding back pay for the years which my pay has not been adjusted.
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From CAD54
" The holder of a restricted rating will be expected to be qualified for an unrestricted rating within a period of 5 years since the endorsement of a P2X rating"
Key word being "expected".
On that same note, I'm "expecting" to receive a pay adjustment in line with current inflation, plus compounding back pay for the years which my pay has not been adjusted.
" The holder of a restricted rating will be expected to be qualified for an unrestricted rating within a period of 5 years since the endorsement of a P2X rating"
Key word being "expected".
On that same note, I'm "expecting" to receive a pay adjustment in line with current inflation, plus compounding back pay for the years which my pay has not been adjusted.
All then are fully operational and on augmented crews share out the landings as required.
The only time “ cruise only” happen when a training backlog occurred on A380 and caused a few months delay obtaining the 6 route trading landings required to operate as P2.
Last edited by cessnapete; 2nd August 2019 at 08:05.