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Beoing CP resigns

Old 13th Feb 2019, 12:24
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Beoing CP resigns

ME, having re-validated his 747-400/800 rating has resigned as CP much to the disgust of his senior managers. Serving the bare minimum of 2 years in the seat he leaves in 3 months for an undisclosed job in AUS. Loyal to the end. They can't half pick'em. And the next joker is ?????
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Old 13th Feb 2019, 12:42
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Hmmm, rather blows up the company narrative that "there isn't a resignation problem". When even your CP's are surreptitiously sliding out the door, there isn't much credibility left for any manager at a Fleet Forum parroting the rather farcical line that "all is will with recruiting and retention". To the rest of us, what more evidence do you need to realise that the time to leave is now, while there are other options available. Those options will eventually be gone.
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Old 13th Feb 2019, 12:43
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Originally Posted by unitedabx View Post
ME, having re-validated his 747-400/800 rating has resigned as CP much to the disgust of his senior managers. Serving the bare minimum of 2 years in the seat he leaves in 3 months for an undisclosed job in AUS. Loyal to the end. They can't half pick'em. And the next joker is ?????
The "cream" rises to the top right ?? Dedicated, deserving and well meaning right ??
Another opening for the next sycophant in line.
Me, me, me, me............
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Old 13th Feb 2019, 12:57
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I don't think criticism of ME is warranted. He basically made a judgment call that his personal well-being is better served elsewhere. Perhaps a lesson the rest of us should heed. Good luck to him.
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Old 13th Feb 2019, 13:04
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One can absolutely not fault him. Working for some of those folks would be a tough gig. I guess we are learning a lesson. “Do as I do, not as I say.” The exodus continues in force, from the top. They’d better open up bases soon!!!! 😂
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Old 13th Feb 2019, 13:07
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Ummmm no, sir--we don't have a retention problem.

'Scuse me, I've got an interview in an hour.

Sometimes it takes awhile to see and accept the situation as presented. Or you think you can fix things, adapt to them, or make them better (and later realize you cannot). Pilots are notorious at trying to be 'fixers.'

The imposition of POS 18 was a huge flare; the only question became "Would anyone actually sign up for this POS." But it showed the cards (or at least the cards Management was striving for). To date, got no idea if entrances are greater than exits or even if we can train those entering. But rather than strive for excellence, POS 18 shows race to the bottom. And management's "vision."

It's possible (through CC/TB/strike, industrial action, etc.) that reasonable conditions can be advanced and achieved. It'll probably take a strike but that's a guess and in the Sun Tzu mantra I'm not sure if folks have the balls to do this (then again, you get less to lose every day). But several years have happened between the time it was started and now; several years being generations in OTHER career airlines and for people who can work there (like in the US) it's booming. It just becomes a question of getting out of the Las Vegas syndrome, shelving your fears, and going for the gold. So IF you are here for a flying career, you probably need to be outta here like yesterday. If you are here to see some friends, chase some what not, beam around asia, see the world, and things not flying career oriented it might make sense to ride it out and pull the pin. Making life manageable in the process and figuring out a way to enjoy things (with the advance knowledge that little of this has to do with anything job related).

I'm not a mind reader, but I suspect many of us are driven and lured to be a part of something great, and for the thrill of building something worthwhile (whether or not it makes money or booms or busts isn't really an issue--you hope for a boom but if you don't get it that's historically not been a big dear; money is such a small thing that such a big deal is made over). The thrill of REAL flying. And toward the thrill of the feeling that comes with chasing these opportunities. To be a part of something (that one perceives) as being great. And this is one very destructive thing that's happened; management has killed this feeling here (despite the HUGE talent we have). So the only place to look is elsewhere.

It's all about the journey and I wish him good luck.
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Old 13th Feb 2019, 14:16
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It's Boeing FFS.
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Old 13th Feb 2019, 14:54
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It's Boeing FFS.
Thank goodness someone's focussing on the real issue here.

STP
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Old 13th Feb 2019, 22:34
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QF awaits........
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Old 13th Feb 2019, 23:20
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Good Luck in Perth! Most of us wish you the best!
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Old 13th Feb 2019, 23:25
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He's a decent guy and has been fair and professional to deal with. Good luck to him I wish him all the best.
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Old 14th Feb 2019, 03:44
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Soooooo, who are the heroes who will be going into management? And more importantly who the hell would want to join the dark side now and be part of this confrontational management team?
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Old 14th Feb 2019, 03:54
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Soooooo, who are the heroes who will be going into management? And more importantly who the hell would want to join the dark side now and be part of this confrontational management team?
Someone that would want to hide behind a cloak of invincibility as the axe of pain gets swung around lopping of unsuspecting pilots heads in an effort to make them heal to their master!
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Old 14th Feb 2019, 04:10
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Also heard ( but unconfirmed ) a senior ( ie he has been in manangement for over 6 months ) Airbus manager is leaving on too. The advertised new positions will be filled by wannabees have no fear.
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Old 14th Feb 2019, 04:10
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Ah, so people who don't enjoy or respect their friends and colleagues. Got it.
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Old 14th Feb 2019, 04:52
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Didn’t one airbus cp just suddenly leave?
does anyone know the story behind his sudden departure?
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Old 14th Feb 2019, 04:54
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The question I have is...did he leave because of another job or because he knows what management are trying to do next?
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Old 14th Feb 2019, 05:00
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CP Boeing and his wife milked CX for all it was worth and now have pulled the plug. All the bullshit he spouted at fleet forums and lextures he gave to resignees total crap. Senior management left with egg all over their faces when one of their own jumps ship. Rumour has it two others to follow within a week. It's a shambles with PC looking very sheepish these days. Many have decided to jump before they are axed. Some say KA managers being recruited because they have always towed the company line. Interesting times.
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Old 14th Feb 2019, 05:35
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is he joining QF?
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Old 14th Feb 2019, 07:56
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When I resigned Mike was nothing but courteous and professional. I wish him and his family all the best for the future.
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