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Old 3rd May 2018, 08:46
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I've recently heard of a number of racial discrimination events of a number of pilots by another colleague. The story could have been blown out of proportion, but when the story is heard more than once, then the saying "there's no smoke without fire" comes to mind.

What is management doing about it? Apparently covering it up and/or nothing! Whatever happened to the company's non-discrimination policy?

Apparently we are to celebrate said colleague's distinguished career.
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Old 3rd May 2018, 16:02
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The more unusual thing would be if you could name 1 pilot in the whole company who hasn't made a "racial" or "discriminating" remark in the flight deck.
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Old 4th May 2018, 01:06
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Indeed. Racism is endemic. In past industrial negotiations, western pilots referred to as gweilos by some local sections of KA management. I thought those sensitive to it snow-flakes, but who am I to judge? Should be completely stamped out and especially has no place on the professional flight deck.
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Old 4th May 2018, 11:23
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Kiwi's ...... Need I say more!
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Old 4th May 2018, 13:12
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Don't you know? Only white people can be racist...
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Old 4th May 2018, 16:37
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I am truly appalled by such mean spirited assertions !
The company has put in place a very strict discrimination policy. It is a cornerstone of the corporate philosophy. It is ruthlessly enforced and has been for many years – no exceptions are made or deviations tolerated.
No matter what race, gender, religion, sexual orientation, age or nationality, everybody gets shafted equally.
However to be fair to all flight deck crew, the company cannot discriminate against everybody at any one time and has hence developed a long term career-discrimination policy. Don't worry it will be your turn soon enough !
Should you not have been sufficiently discriminated against, please contact your superior manager and he will ensure you will get your share of discrimination soon.
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Old 4th May 2018, 21:34
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Originally Posted by EFIS Check View Post
I am truly appalled by such mean spirited assertions !
The company has put in place a very strict discrimination policy. It is a cornerstone of the corporate philosophy. It is ruthlessly enforced and has been for many years – no exceptions are made or deviations tolerated.
No matter what race, gender, religion, sexual orientation, age or nationality, everybody gets shafted equally.
However to be fair to all flight deck crew, the company cannot discriminate against everybody at any one time and has hence developed a long term career-discrimination policy. Don't worry it will be your turn soon enough !
Should you not have been sufficiently discriminated against, please contact your superior manager and he will ensure you will get your share of discrimination soon.
Around here, you are all equally worthless!
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Old 5th May 2018, 01:11
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Discrimination

Want discrimination, go down to Hong Kong immigration department, and apply to "immigrate" to HK and get a HK SAR Passport. They (if you are non-Chinese) make no bones about it...
CX had a CEO who as well verbalised this same thought.
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Old 5th May 2018, 03:48
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Want discrimination, go down to Hong Kong immigration department, and apply to "immigrate" to HK and get a HK SAR Passport. They (if you are non-Chinese) make no bones about it...
CX had a CEO who as well verbalised this same thought.
it is a very easy process if you have the correct HKID. Fill in the form for Chinese citizenship wait a few weeks and then apply for the passport.
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Old 5th May 2018, 04:21
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Our chairman has HK Chinese passport- not that hard once you have PR
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Old 5th May 2018, 09:09
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If you're so concerned go up to the 3rd floor and ask directly what they're doing about it but since you made a new account to start this thread I doubt you will.
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Old 5th May 2018, 19:36
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You're either fresh out of the academy or living in a bubble if surprised by this.

It's a conservative profession and always has been. Generally speaking, pilots are smart enough to avoid the obvious no-no's, but get a few years under your belt and you'll realise that still waters run deep.
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Old 5th May 2018, 21:34
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Folks management love this stuff....divide and conquer
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Old 6th May 2018, 19:11
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The more worrying thing about the so called ‘Discrimination Policy’ and people saying “just go up to the 3rd floor”, is that people have gone up to complain about certain individuals. And as the original poster mentioned, one of them (IF) is getting a very nice send off for his retirement party...let’s hope he navigates the steps properly

We are not talking about guys being overly sensitive or even someone being a bit ignorant and not realising what they are saying is offensive, some of the things being said are clearly racist with an intent to offend. And unfortunately the feedback from upstairs has been along the lines of “Let’s just let this go...etc” and funnily enough, nothing happened to said individual, and instead he’s getting posters and emails sent out to come and ‘Celebrate’ this legend of a bloke!?
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Old 6th May 2018, 22:58
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When I joined, they called Brits "Pommey Bastards", Irish "potato head spics", Chinese "slope heads", Americans "dumb yanks" and Canadians "ignorant canucks". And every one of us had a laugh and got on with the job. Suddenly, the snowflake generation has their "feelings hurt" over a few verbal comments. Grow up everyone. This is the airline business, and if you can't take a few verbal slights you won't make much of an airline pilot. Really, this is beyond belief. Go to work and do your job. There will always be a racist bastard around no matter what the policy is. Deal with it (and don't go crying to mommy on the 3rd floor).
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Old 7th May 2018, 00:29
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So what was the story?
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Old 7th May 2018, 01:12
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Old 7th May 2018, 03:14
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Are management still the enemy or do we just allow trolls to turn us all against each other?
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Old 7th May 2018, 11:45
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Originally Posted by Fat_Dumb_and_Unhappy View Post
The more worrying thing about the so called ‘Discrimination Policy’ and people saying “just go up to the 3rd floor”, is that people have gone up to complain about certain individuals. And as the original poster mentioned, one of them (IF) is getting a very nice send off for his retirement party...let’s hope he navigates the steps properly

We are not talking about guys being overly sensitive or even someone being a bit ignorant and not realising what they are saying is offensive, some of the things being said are clearly racist with an intent to offend. And unfortunately the feedback from upstairs has been along the lines of “Let’s just let this go...etc” and funnily enough, nothing happened to said individual, and instead he’s getting posters and emails sent out to come and ‘Celebrate’ this legend of a bloke!?
Appears you dont like IF and thus one can surmise you must have suffered an ass kicking from IF ....A person who doesnt tolerate fools and wannbe snowflakes. Go cry somewhere else.
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Old 7th May 2018, 14:45
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I suspect FD&U’s assessment is more accurate than yours in fact.

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Appears you dont like IF and thus one can surmise you must have suffered an ass kicking from IF ....A person who doesnt tolerate fools and wannbe snowflakes. Go cry somewhere else.
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