Go Back  PPRuNe Forums > PPRuNe Worldwide > Fragrant Harbour
Reload this Page >

Direct Entry Traing Captains?

Fragrant Harbour A forum for the large number of pilots (expats and locals) based with the various airlines in Hong Kong. Air Traffic Controllers are also warmly welcomed into the forum.

Direct Entry Traing Captains?

Old 21st Dec 2017, 02:39
  #1 (permalink)  
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: hk
Age: 67
Posts: 149
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Direct Entry Traing Captains?

“ We have a strong training culture at Cathay, and the training conducted by our Training Captains is of an exceptional standard. We always aim to promote from within in the first instance, and hope moving forward that we will have the structures and training resources in place that allow us to continue to do so.” DFO

Looks as though bringing in Training Captains from outside is being considered

Last edited by PanZa-Lead; 21st Dec 2017 at 13:05.
PanZa-Lead is offline  
Old 21st Dec 2017, 02:55
  #2 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: HK
Posts: 50
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Or outsource to third parties (Boeing/ Airbus/ KA etc)
Freehills is offline  
Old 21st Dec 2017, 11:02
  #3 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: South Gloucestershire
Posts: 41
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
From the title (almost), I thought it was going to be a joke thread about "toy captains" from Triang.
frampton is offline  
Old 21st Dec 2017, 12:51
  #4 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: The sky
Posts: 30
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Direct entry captains actually violate your cos FYI.... I do agree manufacturer and contract training is a lot better than what we have now.
Natca is offline  
Old 21st Dec 2017, 14:53
  #5 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: 3.5 from TD
Age: 47
Posts: 1,042
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Wow, best news I’ve heard all week. I look forward to it
Sqwak7700 is offline  
Old 21st Dec 2017, 15:56
  #6 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Polar Route
Posts: 5
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Awesome! More wasted training sectors. This would be an FO or CN course’s first xx sectors. Then, the inevitable “retraining” by our space shuttle commanders.
cxorcist is offline  
Old 21st Dec 2017, 17:23
  #7 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Nippi
Posts: 241
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Anything would be better than the current CX commander course. These clowns on the 3rd floor have lost the plot. Never seen so many people lives distrusted and destroyed by the massive egos that dwell in the training department.
DropKnee is offline  
Old 21st Dec 2017, 20:11
  #8 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: with the other ex-CX pond scum (a zoologist was once head of Flight Ops)
Posts: 1,849
Received 46 Likes on 19 Posts
Bring it on. Direct Entry/Outsourced TC's won't be doing it for charity. Can't be many of them around who would be attracted to work out of HKG. And they will have to be accommodated. Then there's health care...
Captain Dart is offline  
Old 21st Dec 2017, 22:04
  #9 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: London
Posts: 1,539
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Well, as two of my colleagues who are still in training said to me last night: "guess they don't need us anymore"....
Trafalgar is offline  
Old 21st Dec 2017, 22:04
  #10 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: London
Posts: 1,539
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Who on earth still thinks it worth dedicating a career to this callous mob?
Trafalgar is offline  
Old 22nd Dec 2017, 02:30
  #11 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: Europe
Posts: 1,674
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Not so long ago in a country not that far away, training was curtailed, the cap ex deferred, all with the acquiescence of the DFO. After all being a corporate wannabe, what his masters offered he gulped up.

The divisors went up, limits became targets. Long established conventions leaving pilots alone on days not assigned flying went out the window. Pressure built.

Right now scattered all over the globe, are former colleagues, here there and everywhere.

Some in France, some in Singapore, even others in North America, as the desperate self serving desire to pump the bonus in one year costs the shareholder ten fold.


You are not alone.
The same 'management' class infects most corporate administrations, it is sort of how the west was lost....
Rated De is offline  
Old 22nd Dec 2017, 02:48
  #12 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Polar Route
Posts: 5
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
“How the West was lost” to what or whom? Are we talking about the private or public sectors, or both? Agree that corporate greed is a problem, if that’s what you meant, but if you believe in the free market economy (which I do) then the ship will right itself as corporations realize it actually COSTS them money to disenfranchise employees, especially those with specialized skill sets. For example, I’m guessing Google compensates and treats its software engineers a bit differently than its janitors, but I don’t really know for sure.
cxorcist is offline  
Old 23rd Dec 2017, 13:29
  #13 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Nov 1998
Location: A long way from home with lots more sand.
Age: 55
Posts: 421
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
If you don't want it to happen I would suggest-as a first step-getting an IFALPA Ban put on such that individuals who apply can be suitably described. No ban would indicate there is no problem accepting such a position should it be offered.
clear to land is offline  
Old 24th Dec 2017, 12:13
  #14 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: UK.
Posts: 4,390
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Hmm, did once have words with a Boeing TC who got a bit 'shouty' in our sim.
Basil is offline  

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Thread Tools
Search this Thread

Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.