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Direct Entry Traing Captains?

Old 21st Dec 2017, 03:39
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Direct Entry Traing Captains?

“ We have a strong training culture at Cathay, and the training conducted by our Training Captains is of an exceptional standard. We always aim to promote from within in the first instance, and hope moving forward that we will have the structures and training resources in place that allow us to continue to do so.” DFO

Looks as though bringing in Training Captains from outside is being considered

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Old 21st Dec 2017, 03:55
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Or outsource to third parties (Boeing/ Airbus/ KA etc)
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Old 21st Dec 2017, 12:02
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From the title (almost), I thought it was going to be a joke thread about "toy captains" from Triang.
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Old 21st Dec 2017, 13:51
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Direct entry captains actually violate your cos FYI.... I do agree manufacturer and contract training is a lot better than what we have now.
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Old 21st Dec 2017, 15:53
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Wow, best news I’ve heard all week. I look forward to it
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Old 21st Dec 2017, 16:56
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Awesome! More wasted training sectors. This would be an FO or CN course’s first xx sectors. Then, the inevitable “retraining” by our space shuttle commanders.
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Old 21st Dec 2017, 18:23
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Anything would be better than the current CX commander course. These clowns on the 3rd floor have lost the plot. Never seen so many people lives distrusted and destroyed by the massive egos that dwell in the training department.
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Old 21st Dec 2017, 21:11
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Bring it on. Direct Entry/Outsourced TC's won't be doing it for charity. Can't be many of them around who would be attracted to work out of HKG. And they will have to be accommodated. Then there's health care...
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Old 21st Dec 2017, 23:04
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Well, as two of my colleagues who are still in training said to me last night: "guess they don't need us anymore"....
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Old 21st Dec 2017, 23:04
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Who on earth still thinks it worth dedicating a career to this callous mob?
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Old 22nd Dec 2017, 03:30
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Not so long ago in a country not that far away, training was curtailed, the cap ex deferred, all with the acquiescence of the DFO. After all being a corporate wannabe, what his masters offered he gulped up.

The divisors went up, limits became targets. Long established conventions leaving pilots alone on days not assigned flying went out the window. Pressure built.

Right now scattered all over the globe, are former colleagues, here there and everywhere.

Some in France, some in Singapore, even others in North America, as the desperate self serving desire to pump the bonus in one year costs the shareholder ten fold.

You are not alone.
The same 'management' class infects most corporate administrations, it is sort of how the west was lost....
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Old 22nd Dec 2017, 03:48
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“How the West was lost” to what or whom? Are we talking about the private or public sectors, or both? Agree that corporate greed is a problem, if that’s what you meant, but if you believe in the free market economy (which I do) then the ship will right itself as corporations realize it actually COSTS them money to disenfranchise employees, especially those with specialized skill sets. For example, I’m guessing Google compensates and treats its software engineers a bit differently than its janitors, but I don’t really know for sure.
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Old 23rd Dec 2017, 14:29
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If you don't want it to happen I would suggest-as a first step-getting an IFALPA Ban put on such that individuals who apply can be suitably described. No ban would indicate there is no problem accepting such a position should it be offered.
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