Disappointed
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From: Vancouver
Disappointed
Yesterday I handed in my second sick note at crew control and overheard and witnessed a senior 777 captain with over 33 years in the company negotiate his flights for his reserve block next week. "I wanna do a London he asked. It will put me over 100 hours". On seeing me, the door was closed but behind the glass panel I could see his embarrassment.
A full AOA member this guy was picking and choosing his overtime flights while I was towing the line.
Very disappointing. I have reported this to the AOA who said " it's his choice".
Disappointed is too mild. Disgusted.
A full AOA member this guy was picking and choosing his overtime flights while I was towing the line.
Very disappointing. I have reported this to the AOA who said " it's his choice".
Disappointed is too mild. Disgusted.
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From: UK.
It's 'toeing' the line. You aren't towing a line along, you are remaining on the acceptable side of the line by putting your toes just up to it.
Anyway - Don't think that I approve of CX management. Just accept that you are not flying for a Western European or North American company. How difficult is that?
I am so glad that I now have nothing to do with CX nor the people who fly for them.
Anyway - Don't think that I approve of CX management. Just accept that you are not flying for a Western European or North American company. How difficult is that?
I am so glad that I now have nothing to do with CX nor the people who fly for them.
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From: The Real World
You are clearly either lying or just stirring up trouble
You said - On seeing me, the door was closed but behind the glass panel I could see his embarrassment.
There are NO DOORS in Crew Control. It is completely open plan.
So the incident you claim to have witnessed could not have taken place in Crew Control.
So thereforethe pilot you are accusing could not have been “negotiating” his flights.
You said - On seeing me, the door was closed but behind the glass panel I could see his embarrassment.
There are NO DOORS in Crew Control. It is completely open plan.
So the incident you claim to have witnessed could not have taken place in Crew Control.
So thereforethe pilot you are accusing could not have been “negotiating” his flights.
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From: The Cesspit
I suspected this really didn’t happen checklistcomplete.
Or did you actually mean to disclose your identity to crew control, a
and 20 plus GC members? Why not then post on the AOA forums?
But I’ll stop short of claiming you tell porky pies until I check, checklistcomplete
Or did you actually mean to disclose your identity to crew control, a
and 20 plus GC members? Why not then post on the AOA forums?But I’ll stop short of claiming you tell porky pies until I check, checklistcomplete
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From: Hong Kong
a370...
Is you’re poor grammar and syntax contrived? It’s too poor to be accidental. You’re either a manager pretending to be a pilot; stirring the pot, and indirectly demonstrating what you consider the average pilot’s grammar skills are. Or, equally likely, you’re a poster boy of what the local low cost carriers are scraping from the bottom of the barrel...
Is you’re poor grammar and syntax contrived? It’s too poor to be accidental. You’re either a manager pretending to be a pilot; stirring the pot, and indirectly demonstrating what you consider the average pilot’s grammar skills are. Or, equally likely, you’re a poster boy of what the local low cost carriers are scraping from the bottom of the barrel...
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From: The Fragrant Harbour
Fact checker, MCIM's door can be closed and his office is glass walled.
Re Sydney on a G, Before people complain about these duties, check very carefully, there are a lot of oneway swaps going on at the moment, the person may have operated on their G on a flight they would have normally commuted up on, letting the inbound crew member stay there. Although to stay in Syd for longer would be a cruel form of punishment that even Cx havnt thought up!
Re Sydney on a G, Before people complain about these duties, check very carefully, there are a lot of oneway swaps going on at the moment, the person may have operated on their G on a flight they would have normally commuted up on, letting the inbound crew member stay there. Although to stay in Syd for longer would be a cruel form of punishment that even Cx havnt thought up!
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TurningFinalRMY36,
The 777 Captain is breaching Contract Compliance. Contract Compliance is more than just working G-days. The specific wording can be seen on the AOA website and the relevant section is "A member will not be contactable, except.."
By talking to Chaos Control when outside the 4 stated exceptions, the 777 Captain is breaching HKAOA rules.
The phrase "Book'em Danno" springs to mind......
The 777 Captain is breaching Contract Compliance. Contract Compliance is more than just working G-days. The specific wording can be seen on the AOA website and the relevant section is "A member will not be contactable, except.."
By talking to Chaos Control when outside the 4 stated exceptions, the 777 Captain is breaching HKAOA rules.
The phrase "Book'em Danno" springs to mind......
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From: Hong Kong
If you were part of a certain whatsapp groupchat then you would know why I was referring to that individual. FYI that individual is also on the same groupchat, but never bothered to clarify or defend himself.
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From: Europe
Yesterday I handed in my second sick note at crew control and overheard and witnessed a senior 777 captain with over 33 years in the company negotiate his flights for his reserve block next week. "I wanna do a London he asked. It will put me over 100 hours".
Get them away from the little click, put them under any sort of pressure and you see the reality.
We all set our own standards. We all possess the necessary equipment to work on the street. Some can do tricks on the street corner, others set higher benchmarks.
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How sadly comical to see all the other CX staff walking around ‘beaming’ because they got their full 13th month. Meanwhile, the most senior staff and essential, the Captains received “0”. And we seem to keep showing up like obedient little sheep. We deserve everything we get. It will be interesting to see whether we deserve the titles we hold. Yammer was all hot air i suppose.
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From: Vancouver
I was disappointed to read GB and BT climbing down. I suspect they received phone calls.
Meantime having provided all but his ERN NOTHING has been done about RW and the others lining their pockets whilst the rest of us fight on. AOA pathetic.
Meantime having provided all but his ERN NOTHING has been done about RW and the others lining their pockets whilst the rest of us fight on. AOA pathetic.