Friday Liar 19.5.17
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This weeks Friday Liar has her asking (tricking) us into thinking we are getting something with CMP/PBS. Meanwhile they violate the RPS AND AFTLs on a daily basis. NO MORE!
Dear Ms T, NO MORE COMMITMENTS UNTIL WE GET ONE FORM YOU!
Dear HKAOA, DO NOT TALK TO THEM UNTIL WE GET A COMMITMENT FROM THEM. How did that GFBA/RA work out for us?
I personally love the "People Departments" Person, TOs, address to us this week. What utter BS. Stop already. We don't buy managements rubbish nonsense talk anymore.
Dear CAD, Please remove AT as DFO, she is not fit to be a DFO. Thank you.
Dear Ms T, NO MORE COMMITMENTS UNTIL WE GET ONE FORM YOU!
Dear HKAOA, DO NOT TALK TO THEM UNTIL WE GET A COMMITMENT FROM THEM. How did that GFBA/RA work out for us?
I personally love the "People Departments" Person, TOs, address to us this week. What utter BS. Stop already. We don't buy managements rubbish nonsense talk anymore.
Dear CAD, Please remove AT as DFO, she is not fit to be a DFO. Thank you.
Given who has been put in charge of CMP, I think that is an admission that CMP ain't going anywhere fast
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I'm pretty sure that as each successive trainer chucks it in, the training workload gets progressively and exponentially more difficult to sustain with available manpower. More trainers resign as a consequence, workload gets harder, more resign etc.
The machine is rolling along and results are coming. Be patient. It's happening.
The machine is rolling along and results are coming. Be patient. It's happening.
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Firstly, stop putting the onus on trainers. We are all in different jobs because of a career progression that has long been recognised. Having said that, if (IF) the AOA designs, votes and implements a strategy to have trainers resign in a recognised and fair format, then i'm all for it. I will, as I have done for over 20+ years, comply with an AOA directive. Make the motion, second it and then vote on it.
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Everybody looks to everybody else to solve 'their' problem. Utlimately, we all need to look at ramping up the CC/TB. Even the trainers will need the cover of the AOA when things start getting that ugly. Or have you forgotten the nature of the beast that we work for?
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The TB is truly a choke point. The company has been betting heavy on being able to generate enough new (cheaper working) bodies who have no idea what has been going on or what's about to happen to them. Their frame of reference is completely different than people who've been here awhile. And it takes time to figure out what's been happening (especially optimistic sorts who spend their time chasing fleeting disingenuous pie-in-the sky promises of sunshine, bases, PBS, and unicorns)--usually several years--by which time the 'Las Vegas' syndrome is apt to kick in.
But the TB doesn't work if people are constantly coming up with reasons to go in or stay in. Everyone would have a reason and no reason is better than any other. We're ALL special
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The training and certification process in HKG is extremely onerous and time consuming (as is some of the recurrent stuff). More so than many other venues; especially when switching seats or other upgrades. This is an incredible advantage toward forwarding a negotiation position in that sitting jets are wayyyy expensive when not earning their keep.
CC bridles availability; TB bridles supply (especially given the high degree of overhead in self-maintenance).
As far as the OP, I'm getting tired of the rhetoric and positional BS so's I'm a little less apt to read what comes from the top. If I want fake news to arouse my ire I can get better written fake stuff from the NYT or Washington Post.
But the TB doesn't work if people are constantly coming up with reasons to go in or stay in. Everyone would have a reason and no reason is better than any other. We're ALL special
.The training and certification process in HKG is extremely onerous and time consuming (as is some of the recurrent stuff). More so than many other venues; especially when switching seats or other upgrades. This is an incredible advantage toward forwarding a negotiation position in that sitting jets are wayyyy expensive when not earning their keep.
CC bridles availability; TB bridles supply (especially given the high degree of overhead in self-maintenance).
As far as the OP, I'm getting tired of the rhetoric and positional BS so's I'm a little less apt to read what comes from the top. If I want fake news to arouse my ire I can get better written fake stuff from the NYT or Washington Post.
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Firstly, stop putting the onus on trainers. We are all in different jobs because of a career progression that has long been recognised. Having said that, if (IF) the AOA designs, votes and implements a strategy to have trainers resign in a recognised and fair format, then i'm all for it. I will, as I have done for over 20+ years, comply with an AOA directive. Make the motion, second it and then vote on it.
It will be the only way to table a motion, their is no way you are going to be able to convince these types to man up and see the light.Look at some of the junior trainers that were like rats up a drainpipe into training .Filth.
Most if not all of them are too self interested in number one, they will never get it period.
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Thanks for the update Anna but as usual you are way behind. The new Boeing FTM, ME let the cat out of the bag more than a week ago. Thank goodness the CAD ratified his position, otherwise that could have been embarrassing no? No, you are probably right, that even they don't give a crap.
Anyway enjoy your holiday. Just think seven glorious weeks stateside, just to learn from experts that you are actually useless. You could have gleaned that from here much earlier.
Anyway enjoy your holiday. Just think seven glorious weeks stateside, just to learn from experts that you are actually useless. You could have gleaned that from here much earlier.
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Actually, if you look at it again he is head of simulator not the actual sim training. Look at who the sim fleet mangers report to. The job descriptions further down spell out the differences. All part of a plan to sell off the training facility.......allegedly.
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Last edited by Starbear; 7th Jul 2017 at 15:14. Reason: OK nicked from sister site-but you probably guessed
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Particularly good reading this one. Our esteemed ADFO (GMF on Steroids) can certainly wax poetic and my guess is he ran off and paid out of his own pocket for one of the Swire business courses (Insead ++) as he certainly has the BS lingo down. He must spend his Sundays practicing at gatherings.
Still searching for that elusive additional promotion he has the art of obfuscation down pat..
Really to bad though that he can't focus that much attention and energy to company manuals (Ops A, FCOMs Part XX etc.) and ensure they are up to date and relevant. The job he he actually gets paid to do..
One can only wish
Still searching for that elusive additional promotion he has the art of obfuscation down pat..
Really to bad though that he can't focus that much attention and energy to company manuals (Ops A, FCOMs Part XX etc.) and ensure they are up to date and relevant. The job he he actually gets paid to do..
One can only wish
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my guess is he ran off and paid out of his own pocket for one of the Swire business courses (Insead ++)
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I'd expect no less (and no more) from any self respecting former Training FO's.
