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Old 1st Mar 2018, 06:17
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DP says a project team has been formed to look at bases. How many AOA reps are on it?

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Old 1st Mar 2018, 12:29
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Haha. Love the sarcasm.
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Old 1st Mar 2018, 23:23
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He didnít say a project team had been formed, he said they were in the process of forming a project team. Two quite different statements.

In essence, he said, we arenít opening bases. Ever. Another reason to leave.
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Old 1st Mar 2018, 23:59
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Originally Posted by Air Profit View Post
AT, we'll sit down with you, next year.
AP, ... I am assuming this is in relation to the DFO's incredulity that the HKAOA will not sit down and talk? Excellent. Agreed. After all, ... these things are complicated and take time to figure out. NB: Implied sarcasm intended, if not already obvious.
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Old 3rd Mar 2018, 22:43
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Not satisfied with a single screwing ...now we have a DP team?
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Old 4th Mar 2018, 00:02
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In case it isn't perfectly clear: make for the lifeboats asap, as this ship has struck the iceberg and will sink. The management are sitting on the deck playing their instruments, but their feet are already getting wet. There is no saving this airline, as the management have no credibility, no honesty, no morality, no competence, no vision. It is dead. If you have any other option, take it while it is still available. Otherwise, you will find yourselves (and your families) in an impossible and horrid situation. Then, you will only have yourselves to blame.
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Old 4th Mar 2018, 02:17
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One other failing of our management. They have no respect for their employees, or value their contribution. That leads to the abuse of their employees, and the resulting dysfunction and eventual failure of the airline.
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Old 4th Mar 2018, 10:25
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Blunderbus,

I see what you did there. I believe the Italians would call that a "double inyourendo".
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Old 7th Mar 2018, 22:23
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Yet another amusing update on bases today just reiterating that bases are indeed dead, or did I misinterpret it?
#actionsspeaklouderthanwords
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Old 7th Mar 2018, 22:50
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No. You nailed it. Bases are dead. Be guided accordingly.
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Old 8th Mar 2018, 00:50
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Yes, Dead.

Itís not too hard to look at the track record for information releases in the past and see a pattern. Usually itís not a whole YEAR away for an ďupdateĒ though, which is why this one is especially telling. Itís full out damage control if youíre able to read it...some interpreted this as the Co. saying that the opening of the bases is too costly...which is exactly what they said! We all heard you loud and clear DP and weíve made our decision. Qualified, experienced pilots are leaving in droves over this issue. Itís not more money we always want, we just want to go home. Heck, I could be based in NA with Hainan! Resumes out and headed home.
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Old 8th Mar 2018, 22:18
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I guess the company is included the legal costs they incur when they fail to follow local laws in the bases they have. If they did thing properly (legally) then these costs wouldn't happen. A based pilot has no housing or education so of course money could be saved - but only if you do things legally. Not a strong point for our mis-managers.
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