The usual suspect.
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Well said Shep, and you're right... It is pretty easy.
"Do the right thing"... What a novel concept! If only the masters on the 9th floor would "do the right thing". Sadly, they are blinded by their greed and broken corporate culture which makes adversaries of their most valuable employees. How stupid is that???
"Do the right thing"... What a novel concept! If only the masters on the 9th floor would "do the right thing". Sadly, they are blinded by their greed and broken corporate culture which makes adversaries of their most valuable employees. How stupid is that???
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Struggling with a broken marriage, Paul Whyte rented a plane from a Lismore flying club, made a final phone call to his daughters and disappeared into the ocean six nautical miles off Byron Bay.
Authorities refused to provide details of the tragedy, *infuriating Northern Rivers Aero Club president Bill Kiernan, the man who leased the aircraft to Mr Whyte.
Mr Kiernan said the Australian and International Pilots Association had tried to silence him, warning him not to tell anyone Mr Whyte was a Qantas pilot.
“I told them I’ll say whatever I want, because it was the truth,” he said.
Qantas initially refused to confirm Mr Whyte worked for them but yesterday conceded he was an employee.
NSW police believe the plane hit the ocean at “high speed”. A report is being prepared for the coroner.
Authorities refused to provide details of the tragedy, *infuriating Northern Rivers Aero Club president Bill Kiernan, the man who leased the aircraft to Mr Whyte.
Mr Kiernan said the Australian and International Pilots Association had tried to silence him, warning him not to tell anyone Mr Whyte was a Qantas pilot.
“I told them I’ll say whatever I want, because it was the truth,” he said.
Qantas initially refused to confirm Mr Whyte worked for them but yesterday conceded he was an employee.
NSW police believe the plane hit the ocean at “high speed”. A report is being prepared for the coroner.
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Re: just leave
Rodscurtain, the suggestion to 'just leave' wasn't just my own. In fact, I remember thinking that it was more or less suggested that it be looked at as a realistic option in the 4th ed of the Aoa times in December of last year. I assume that was what was hinted at given that everyone received a half page of airline recruitment links anyway.
On the subject at hand, I have my own opinion surrounding pilots who elect to fly when they are knowingly unfit, whether it be fatigued or otherwise. I'm sure that most professional pilots, including yourself, would share the same opinion.
As for a show of solidarity when it comes to these issues - it is fairly obvious that as long as individuals continue to fly fatigued and continue to put up with all of this crap, very little will be done from the company's side to change anything.
Young SO's are joining this company in droves yet the number of pilots leaving does not appear to reflect that there is a large scale problem.
So I guess the question your friends in management are asking is, 'Is there even a problem?'
Things have never gotten better in Cathay in the last 10 years, only worse - I just wonder why anyone would continue to blindly hope and pray against all hopes that anything would change for the better now?
On the subject at hand, I have my own opinion surrounding pilots who elect to fly when they are knowingly unfit, whether it be fatigued or otherwise. I'm sure that most professional pilots, including yourself, would share the same opinion.
As for a show of solidarity when it comes to these issues - it is fairly obvious that as long as individuals continue to fly fatigued and continue to put up with all of this crap, very little will be done from the company's side to change anything.
Young SO's are joining this company in droves yet the number of pilots leaving does not appear to reflect that there is a large scale problem.
So I guess the question your friends in management are asking is, 'Is there even a problem?'
Things have never gotten better in Cathay in the last 10 years, only worse - I just wonder why anyone would continue to blindly hope and pray against all hopes that anything would change for the better now?
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Interesting comment. I work for an airline that uses fatigue models, its the one that Scientists use and not available for commercial use. We use it in our airline,,when I say we- the sleepy scientists use it. We don't make judgments. A lot of the fatigue models lack one thing - data, particularly from "your" airline. They use averages. A best practice airline would have motion watches collecting data from it's crews so it can validate what the models are predicting. Does CX??
They are to be found on the 3rd floor. Spewing forth propaganda about how our fatigue risk models are safe, and world's best practice, when the majority of our trainers are telling them its a lie.
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A best practice airline would have motion watches collecting data from it's crews so it can validate what the models are predicting. Does CX??
Thanks for the laugh twiglet.
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airlines like to parrot the term "best practise", when what they mean is common practise. Ie... its the race to the bottom
Can't remember where I read about that...
