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Old 1st March 2014 | 00:22
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Thanks for backing me up go43, wouldn't have imagined there are so many frustrated guys out here, although to be very honest, I haven't ever read anything positive here either. It was just a question, indeed we are all colleagues here and some people prefer to burn each other down, enjoy! 12000 hours in the rhs old whatever, omg, you must need a lot of practice Since we are not into space shuttles I know I'm up for it, I'm not asking for an A380 command, just A320. Anyway, lots of words and still no advice, I'll keep looking around, thank you.
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Old 1st March 2014 | 01:17
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ok...on a serious note...

There are no fast track commands in HKG - the only remote chance would be Jetstar HK but as you most likely already know they are having trouble getting their AOC and quite frankly nobody really wants them here anyway. The biz jet world is another option.

To be honest the days of fast track commands in Asia are gone - AirAsia used to have them for expats but that opportunity stopped a few years ago.

As per my previous post; if you are after the magic quick command (not sure what time frame you are thinking of) you need to go to the Middle East or sell your soul to some company in Indonesia or Vietnam where you can pay for a command.

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Old 1st March 2014 | 02:58
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Me thinks you are mistaken, try Vietnam airlines, 3000 hrs tt (jet) both local n expats, while we can pontificate the merits of learning your craft etc, the explosion of aircraft orders throughout Asia will only accelerate this trend, not slow it down. Management need bodies in the cockpit
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Old 1st March 2014 | 08:21
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if we all followed the same path, instead of trying to buck the system, our industry T and Cs would not be in the crapper.
I think you'll find it's the fact we all follow the same path that is screwing our conditions, if we all bucked the system perhaps they would pay us to stay on the path!

Conditions certainly aren't getting better historically unfortunately.
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Old 1st March 2014 | 08:49
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How many other jobs do you think there are, that are in demand, yet get paid less now than they did in the 1980's?
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Old 1st March 2014 | 11:07
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Thank you very much gentlemen. Good advice indeed, I'll see with Vietnam Airlines, last time they told me two years but ofcourse it's up to the company to decide. I heard several expats were upgraded and that the company is good. Paying for a command? If that's what it's going to take, I rather use the money to get myself a different career. I always wanted to be a chef
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Old 2nd March 2014 | 01:16
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Flying Mechanic, problem with your theory is that He has no Corporate rating, and no Corporate operation will pay the $50K+ to rate Him. ACJ and BBJ pilots are a dime a dozen for 1 or 2 airframes so He really has to stand out, or more importantly, have an insider to get those positions.

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Old 2nd March 2014 | 01:46
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Yes true you will really need someone from the inside pushing your cv these days in corporate.
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Old 3rd March 2014 | 00:41
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Jumping from one airline to another while still a F/O carries risk. You don't know the politics and policies of your new employer, whereas you would know in your present company how long a command is likely to take.

It is much easier to move around as a DEC once you have 1000 hours command on type.

As for 3800 hours - that's not so much, especially if most has been in the RHS. Having said that, remember it's not the hours you put in that are important, it's what you put in to the hours.
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