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JFK 777 Base on new FTLS

Old 1st Sep 2012, 19:12
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Joejet said,
If Cathay offers work visas to anyone who wants them, are you going to say NO to an LAX base living in San Diego?
Joe, CATHAY can not offer visas to anyone! Only the country of employment (in this case, the USA) can offer visas. I don't think the USA will make the same mistake again.
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Old 1st Sep 2012, 19:22
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Your correct in that Cathay does not actually offer the visa. They can sponsor someone to the INS for a work visa. The job description can be written so that only a current Cathay pilot meets their criteria. This happens all the time in every type of industry.

We will all find out next Friday!

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Old 1st Sep 2012, 21:32
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Whatever is learned next Friday, I'm sure it will create more questions than offer answers. No doubt, there will be bad news for some and good news for few or perhaps none.
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Old 1st Sep 2012, 21:49
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heard a rumour this week that all US based, Canadian FO US visa applications got rejected only Captains got approved.
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Old 1st Sep 2012, 22:18
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Heard 15+ resignations from PAR base closure? Anyone know anyone who did this, or is it total BS?

What is the motivation for CX to "open" a JFK base?
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Old 1st Sep 2012, 23:43
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Uhhhh, 4 pax flights (3 direct) and one freighter daily to JFK.

IS - It's not rocket science, must be a bit embarrassing.

Gotta run, I have to study up on my theory of scientific theory...

Two too many theories in there for me, but I'm thinking of entrusting my soul to it. Seems pretty rational and logical to me. Don't you guys think?
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Old 2nd Sep 2012, 07:09
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If some sort of an announcement is coming out on a Friday, it is probably bad news.

A common industrial and legal tactic; for example, if you are going to be fired or sued, Friday afternoon is often the time.

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Old 2nd Sep 2012, 10:54
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Or Friday evening after Handbrake House is closed for the weekend if you're really going to shaft a bunch of pilots...
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Old 2nd Sep 2012, 12:23
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If some sort of an announcement is coming out on a Friday, it is probably bad news
I challenge you, or anybody else, to present just one piece of good news that has been presented since 1993.

Seriously.
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Old 2nd Sep 2012, 16:22
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Fun while it lasted...

Skillet et al, it's back to contentious topics using the thread drift method it would appear. The change of name in the now deleted thread that you suggested should not have been to change "dogma" to "dogmatism" but "shortest" to "shortest-lived"!

Happy drifting.

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Old 2nd Sep 2012, 18:23
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Does Cathay also help other nationals get US visas, or just Canadians. If not, why?
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Old 3rd Sep 2012, 02:01
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No, CX does not "help" any nationals "get" US Visas.

CX is in the airline business, not in the immigration business.

The Canadian/US visa issue was an expeditious means of continuing to do business without a major upset. There were a load of Canadians living in the US under the terms of a previous basings agreement (not well thought through) and all that CX has done is to facilitate US work visas for them whilst in the employ of CX or a subsidiary.
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Old 3rd Sep 2012, 02:12
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Just seems a little strange that only Canadians would be afforded the privilege of working in the US. Why not Mexicans? Or Germans?
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Old 3rd Sep 2012, 02:26
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The Canadians that do not have work visa but have a base in the US cannot be in country for more than 180 days per year...so they can not practically live in the US. if you have a work visa, then you can take up full time residency. There should not be any restriction for other nationals working for CX. As for the Mexicans, they don't need visa, they just cross the border. Germans...well, I don't want to start a thread drift.
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Old 3rd Sep 2012, 03:40
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OK, here's the truth:

Canadians are just BETTER. Better at everything. That's why.
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Old 3rd Sep 2012, 04:18
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Capt. U.

You are correct sir, every time I fly with a Canadian they tell me they are the best so it must be true!!!!!
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Old 3rd Sep 2012, 04:37
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Must be tough on the ego to be overshadowed all the time by Big Brother next door...

I agree that the biggest pain in the arses at CX are Canadian and that some tend to overestimate their flying abilities by a good margin. Not that any of this is unique to Canucks, it has just been my experience here.

Where's WCC? I'm sure he has an opinion on this.
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Old 3rd Sep 2012, 18:31
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Just heard an interesting rumor that some US guys are quite pissed off about the visas, and that they have made FOIA request to be able to review the apps. Supposedly there were some shady reasons given in the apps to justify those type of visas.
Can you guys imagine what would happend to the affected guys if they have not been 100% truthful in their applications
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Old 3rd Sep 2012, 21:23
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No visas required for jail.

If anyone did lie on their visa application, which I doubt, they would end up in Federal Prison followed by immediate deportation. No visa required to be an inmate in the US Federal Prison system.

Why would anyone try to have a fellow employee sent to prison over that?
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Old 4th Sep 2012, 00:44
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once they're in a US prison they wont be employees for long ... that precedent has been set, hasn't it?
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