Fragrant Harbour A forum for the large number of pilots (expats and locals) based with the various airlines in Hong Kong. Air Traffic Controllers are also warmly welcomed into the forum.

Navtech Charts

Old 9th Jul 2012, 10:30
  #21 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Brisbane
Posts: 2
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
No height restrictions at Limes because this is the ILS07L chart. Jepp combine the ILS and LOC approaches, Navtech separate them. If you check the Navetch 07L LOC approach the height restrictions are there.
BPQA is offline  
Old 9th Jul 2012, 11:38
  #22 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: I don't really hate them...I just miss flight attendants.
Posts: 129
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
They are hideously busy and confusing. How many frequencies can they possibly jam into one section of a chart?
They will be a nightmare for the more senior folks but maybe all the iCadets can figure them out.
FR8R H8R is offline  
Old 13th Jul 2012, 16:45
  #23 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jul 2000
Location: Smogsville
Posts: 1,425
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
iPads flying high with Qantas pilots
SMOC is offline  
Old 13th Jul 2012, 19:16
  #24 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Ask Crew Control
Age: 45
Posts: 252
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I remember not hard tuning NLG for an arrival on 07 a few years back during a line check and got reamed totally for it. Appeared in my report as "momentary loss of situational awareness on arrival in HK". Still have shivers when I think of it today!!!!!!
Cavallier is offline  
Old 13th Jul 2012, 23:56
  #25 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: uk
Posts: 65
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
@ Cavallier

and ofcourse you were most likely under radar vectors at that point anyway right?.. Poor you...
cyrex is offline  
Old 14th Jul 2012, 00:06
  #26 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Hong Kong
Posts: 744
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
under radar vectors

An probably in VMC as well I suspect cavallier
broadband circuit is offline  
Old 14th Jul 2012, 02:14
  #27 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Ask Crew Control
Age: 45
Posts: 252
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Ha, both correct!!!!
Cavallier is offline  
Old 14th Jul 2012, 03:09
  #28 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: with the other ex-CX pond scum (a zoologist was once head of Flight Ops)
Posts: 1,804
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
In addition to QF, Emirates is also looking at iPad-based EFB's, as are many airlines in the US.

What's the bet CX Flight Ops persists with a half-assed system that costs millions and never works properly?
Captain Dart is offline  
Old 14th Jul 2012, 03:52
  #29 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Christchurch
Posts: 28
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
"I'm guessing it will be a POS."

Correct!
Phlaps 40 is offline  
Old 14th Jul 2012, 04:09
  #30 (permalink)  
swh

Eidolon
 
Join Date: May 2001
Location: Some hole
Posts: 2,116
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
It's a Shenzhen special that came in at the lowest price, so bad that the people involved in it want out.
swh is offline  
Old 14th Jul 2012, 04:30
  #31 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: hong kong
Posts: 293
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
The I Pad or rather distractions and difficulty stowing it by the crew was cited as a factor in the Finair taxiway attempted takeoff investigation. Hindering not helping efficiency on that flight deck.
mr Q is offline  
Old 14th Jul 2012, 11:12
  #32 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Out there
Posts: 132
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
mr
The I Pad or rather distractions and difficulty stowing it by the crew was cited as a factor in the Finair taxiway attempted takeoff investigation. Hindering not helping efficiency on that flight deck.
It's also distracting putting my paper checklist away, or dropping my pen, or talking/listening to the radio, or a thousand other things.
F_one is offline  
Old 15th Jul 2012, 05:38
  #33 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: May 2000
Location: the world
Posts: 152
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Has anyone figured out how to download all the charts for a particular airfield in one go , as we used to be able to do with Jeppview ?

How do you change the size of the left menu box after selecting charts , the one containing the chart description . It is so small one has to constantly move the bar left and right to be able to read the description.
So does anyone know the answer to the original questions?

Last edited by backspace; 15th Jul 2012 at 05:39.
backspace is offline  
Old 15th Jul 2012, 09:33
  #34 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Hong Kong
Posts: 1,120
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Just tried it for the first time.
F...Me! but this interface is a load of [email protected]!

I have a 27 inch screen and have to manage the whole thing in a 2 inch window!

You have to down load each file to have a look at it!

Surely they could do better than this!
Frogman1484 is offline  
Old 15th Jul 2012, 11:11
  #35 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jul 2000
Location: Smogsville
Posts: 1,425
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Just used the ipad app. All CX charts loaded 11,000+ pages took 4 hrs using the CXcity wifi.
SMOC is offline  
Old 15th Jul 2012, 12:12
  #36 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Honolulu, Hawai'i
Posts: 79
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Query and Response from Navtech

In prep for the recent RT/PC I too was frustrated at not being able to select and download multiple charts at once to save as a PDF file or package like we used to be able to do. I sent a quick email to Navtech asking if there was something that I could be doing wrong. This was their response:

Hello *****

Unfortunately at the moment it is only possible to print each chart individually when using eCharts-web. This is something that I have asked our product development team to look into the issue and see if there is a way to print entire aerodromes at once. As soon as there is an update I will notify you.

Regards,
Richard

Richard Simmonds | Logistics Coordinator| [email protected] | Phone: 44 (0) 1932 704272| Mob: 07850 602559 | Hersham Place Technology Park, Molesey Road, Walton on Thames, Surrey, KT12 4RZ, United Kingdom | visit us at Inspiring Aviation - Navtech
Richard will be in Hong Kong this week to discuss the matter with Cathay. He asked me to pass this message to all our pilots:

I am in Hong Kong on a visit to cathay next week and intend to discuss the matter further. If you and your colleagues could compose a short email to me explaining how useful it is (as you have already done) it should help speed the process up as I can highlight the importance of it

Regards,
Richard
I know you may feel that it's really not our job to have to do this, but up to you if you want to email him. His email is below his signature above. I guess they are aware of it. Hope they can get this small feature implemented...among other things...

Aloha.
alohajec is offline  
Old 15th Jul 2012, 13:19
  #37 (permalink)  
crwjerk
Guest
 
Posts: n/a

Ooh yeah come on boys............
 
Old 15th Jul 2012, 13:37
  #38 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: 3.5 from TD
Age: 46
Posts: 1,043
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Seriously, what an unfortunate name choice. Sort of like Michael Bolton in "Office Space":

"There was nothing wrong with that name, until that no talent ass-clown started making pop music."

Love it.
Sqwak7700 is offline  
Old 15th Jul 2012, 13:59
  #39 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Honolulu, Hawai'i
Posts: 79
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Hahaha, that's pretty funny, even though it is Richard Simmons.

I didn't even think of that!
alohajec is offline  
Old 15th Jul 2012, 14:04
  #40 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: May 2000
Location: the world
Posts: 152
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
SMOC

Where did you get the login details?
backspace is offline  

Thread Tools
Search this Thread

Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service - Do Not Sell My Personal Information

Copyright © 2022 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.